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WEEK 16 ALREADY

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/schedule/_/week/16/year/2023/seasontype/2[/url]

Rams / Saints TNF with playoff implications

MNF = RAVENS / SF

Interesting stat : BENGALS Have the 31st defense and a backup QB in tough division and are 8-6... COACHING MATTERS

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Ravens and SF game will be interesting game, although I think SF will win it. SF is going to SB for sure.

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Interesting stat : BENGALS Have the 31st defense and a backup QB in tough division and are 8-6... COACHING MATTERS[/quote]

Never hurts having a good HC that graduated from QB coach.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1354730]WEEK 16 ALREADY

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/schedule/_/week/16/year/2023/seasontype/2[/url]

Rams / Saints TNF with playoff implications

MNF = RAVENS / SF

[B]Interesting stat : BENGALS Have the 31st defense and a backup QB in tough division and are 8-6... COACHING MATTERS[/quote][/B]

That is some WOW sh!t right there!

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Meanwhile, in our crappy game, the league will have the 32nd ranked offense against the 32nd ranked defense. Has there ever been a game to end in a 0-0 tie?

I cannot believe how very wrong I was in being excited about the defense at the outset of the season. With Allen, Payne, Young, and Sweat all healthy, even with nothing much at the LB position, with Forrest, Kurl, and Fuller on the back end, I thought we'd be pretty good. I wasn't sold on Forbes but the ball skills were intriguing.

I also figured that the O line couldn't be worse than what we had last year.

Man, to be wrong on so many levels stings.

I hope from this point forward, they have a bunch of guys audition to see whether they have anything to offer -- Jabril Cox, Cole Turner, Andre Jones, and Chris Rodriguez are guys I would like to see get some playing time to see what they can do. And I wouldn't mind them auditioning some kickers either. At this point, why not?

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[quote=calia;1354767]Meanwhile, in our crappy game, the league will have the 32nd ranked offense against the 32nd ranked defense. Has there ever been a game to end in a 0-0 tie?

I cannot believe how very wrong I was in being excited about the defense at the outset of the season. With Allen, Payne, Young, and Sweat all healthy, even with nothing much at the LB position, with Forrest, Kurl, and Fuller on the back end, I thought we'd be pretty good. I wasn't sold on Forbes but the ball skills were intriguing.

I also figured that the O line couldn't be worse than what we had last year.

Man, to be wrong on so many levels stings.

I hope from this point forward, they have a bunch of guys audition to see whether they have anything to offer -- Jabril Cox, Cole Turner, Andre Jones, and Chris Rodriguez are guys I would like to see get some playing time to see what they can do. And I wouldn't mind them auditioning some kickers either. At this point, why not?[/quote]

Why not? Ron's pride, I assume. He would rather not be seen as an even more profoundly bad judge of talent on his way out the door. And, if an interim coach had been losing so badly in the meantime, Ron and his few? any? remaining defenders would have a toehold on plausible deniability.

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I cannot believe how very wrong I was in being excited about the defense at the outset of the season. With Allen, Payne, Young, and Sweat all healthy, even with nothing much at the LB position, with Forrest, Kurl, and Fuller on the back end, I thought we'd be pretty good. I wasn't sold on Forbes but the ball skills were intriguing.

I also figured that the O line couldn't be worse than what we had last year.

Man, to be wrong on so many levels stings.

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I’m right there with you. What’s shocking is the team has been healthy all year.
D Forrest is the only starter that missed significant time.

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Plus with the Stench of Snyder gone you would think the team would have played better .. but I guess Snyder stamp was all over this team and that itself is the root of the problems.. fact is as of now do we have one player that we could trade for a first rounder ?? I'm not sure we do .. our best players are Payne,Allen,Terry,Way .. that's about it !

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[QUOTE=Hoglips;1354770]Why not? Ron's pride, I assume. He would rather not be seen as an even more profoundly bad judge of talent on his way out the door. And, if an interim coach had been losing so badly in the meantime, Ron and his few? any? remaining defenders would have a toehold on plausible deniability.[/QUOTE]


this is probably right but his pride should want to have him show that the guys I listed - all of which he drafted - can actually play.

Man, I can’t wait for him to be gone. I like him as a person but I cannot stand him as a coach or GM. He’s like Cerrato bad.


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[QUOTE=jamf;1354771]I’m right there with you. What’s shocking is the team has been healthy all year.
D Forrest is the only starter that missed significant time.[/QUOTE]


This may be the worst season ever can recall where the anticipation got run over by reality. In other bad seasons, I pretty much knew it would be bad. But a historically bad D was nothing I had imagined.


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Derek Carr is the definition of mediocre


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1354831]Derek Carr is the definition of mediocre


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He sucks!! Period!

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Mcvay is a great coach man. We need to find a offensive genius like that


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1354833]Mcvay is a great coach man. We need to find a offensive genius like that


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I like him better than Kyle S.

He's playing with 13 rookies, they will make the playoffs and pull an upset.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1354834]I like him better than Kyle S.

He's playing with 13 rookies, they will make the playoffs and pull an upset.[/quote]

You had both of them, at the same time.

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[quote=Hoglips;1354770]Why not? Ron's pride, I assume. He would rather not be seen as an even more profoundly bad judge of talent on his way out the door. And, if an interim coach had been losing so badly in the meantime, Ron and his few? any? remaining defenders would have a toehold on plausible deniability.[/quote]

The simplest way to describe his mental and emotional state regarding his job would probably be to say "He's done". He doesn't have a plan anymore and his explanations of why he does things make no sense because he's not thinking straight. He's befuddled by the whole thing. Like many people who have hit the career wall, he probably doesn't know it yet.

He needs a long rest. The good news is that he has money. So, he should probably retire and have a wonderful time.

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[quote=Giantone;1354835]You had both of them, at the same time.[/quote]

Just add their loss to the long list of Dan Snyder's failures as an NFL owner.

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Bengals pack it in with 6.5 minutes left??? They are three scores down a real long shot but possible - Now that is pathetic.

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Must be nice to have Josh Allen.. Bills fans better enjoy these years


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Chargers. Gonna. Charge.

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The browns are actually a contender with Joe Flacco lmfao


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McDaniel goes for it on 4th and goal from the 5 without an opportunity to pick up a first down. Can we say dumb call.... Kick the FG and you're likely down 7-6 early in the second quarter.

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Bucs are the best team in Florida. Jags and Dolphins are soft as fuck. Look good on their best days, but are pudding soft.

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Go ahead and put Lawrence in the overrated as fuck category.

Also, you're a grown man now, grow the fuck up and get a haircut. Time to be a man now.

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Hahahaha- eat shit Dallas. Overrated.


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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1354833]Mcvay is a great coach man. We need to find a offensive genius like that


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I remember Cooley going on and on about McVay. He wasn’t wrong.


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Yeah TLaw is way too inconsistent


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Dallas is who we all thought they were. Yes they are a good team with a talented roster but they always seem to lose the big games


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We all need to root for NE tonight


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NE beats the Jets in the last week and we pick 3rd

SOS supersedes head to head. Keep forgetting that. We should be locked into 3rd. Williams, Maye, or Daniels there for the taking

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[quote=punch it in;1355172]NE beats the Jets in the last week and we pick 3rd

SOS supersedes head to head. Keep forgetting that. We should be locked into 3rd. Williams, Maye, or Daniels there for the taking[/quote]

someone will trade up

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1355180]someone will trade up[/QUOTE]We will.

Easier to trade up from #3. I would throw Jon Allen in a trade package to the Bears for the #1 overall pick.

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Also, current draft standings:[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231225/1a89fdddd174cc3567f5ee338413f15a.jpg[/IMG]

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1355181]We will.

Easier to trade up from #3. I would throw Jon Allen in a trade package to the Bears for the #1 overall pick.

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Would probably take a future one as well though or one of our 2s


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Some bad news the Pats have to win another game or they get pick 3 back. Even though we are behind in sos right now, we play San Francisco and Dallas. Combined records of 21-9. NE plays the Jets and Bills. Combined record of 15-15. NE has to win another game. Dream scenario is cards win and NE wins. We pick second.

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[quote=nonniey;1355184]Some bad news the Pats have to win another game or they get pick 3 back. Even though we are behind in sos right now, we play San Francisco and Dallas. Combined records of 21-9. NE plays the Jets and Bills. Combined record of 15-15. NE has to win another game. Dream scenario is cards win and NE wins. We pick second.[/quote]

Even the cards win they pick before us since we beat them

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1355185]Even the cards win they pick before us since we beat them[/quote]
Head to Head has nothing to do with it - it is based on strength of schedule. If the Cards win we pick before them (They have a much stronger SOS).

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Strength of schedule is the first tie breaker.
Head to head is the second tie breaker if SOs are even.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1355181]We will.

Easier to trade up from #3. I would throw Jon Allen in a trade package to the Bears for the #1 overall pick.

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For who? if we are taking a quarterback there is no clear number 1 imo and the 2 OT’s will be there. Harrison Jr ?

To me having any top 5 pick in this draft is almost equal. Maybe even 6 because of Daniels.

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[QUOTE=nonniey;1355184]Some bad news the Pats have to win another game or they get pick 3 back. Even though we are behind in sos right now, we play San Francisco and Dallas. Combined records of 21-9. NE plays the Jets and Bills. Combined record of 15-15. NE has to win another game. Dream scenario is cards win and NE wins. We pick second.[/QUOTE]


So it is based on the easier schedule? Like you must be worse because you lost to shittier teams? It sort of makes sense but they should go to common opponents and head to head first. What says we suck more than you more than losing to you? Getting punished for playing better teams is cold.
Anyway again 1-6 gets you a stud wr, choice of two best LT’s, or one of the top 3 quarterbacks that nobody seems to know who the best one is.