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Quick turnaround here. Birds had to travel back from Texas though.
I hope we come out fired up because we let one get away from us. If we lose it is not the end of the world at all though. Will seem like it because we lose twice in 5 days however I fully expect to split with them and this is in their house. Winning this game would be 100 percent gravy. Losing means 7-4 with mostly home games left.

Edit: bukakke boy better not be returning punts!!!

Prediction:
Us - 27
Them- 21

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I’ve already said we will lose. There’s a good chance Marshon doesn’t play. Probably want him to heal up for the stretch run. We might just let all our questionable players sit out another week.

I think Barkley and their receivers will give our defense fits.

Eagles 34
Commanders 27

We will keep it close though and get our revenge when they visit us.

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Can’t go 0-2 to Pennsylvania.

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If Lattimore plays we win easily. If he doesn't it goes deep into the 4th and needs hero play to win.

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This will be a tough game to win especially after a tough loss. I do think we can go in there and do it. Need to catch the ball. Huge reason for a loss yesterday. You can't have drops against good teams. Minimize penalties also.

Pittsburgh's defense was really, really good and we still moved the ball. Hoping to get B-Rob and Lattimore back asap.

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Certainly, injury concerns. Hope everyone is healthy for the rest of our division games.

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Stopping AJ Brown and Devonta Smith is very tough. Brown destroyed us last year in Philly. Getting Lattimore back would help a TON for this game. Not optimistic but will keep my fingers crossed. Brown and Barkley are bigtime playmakers.

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I think this might get ugly. The list of injuries is long. Barkley is in great form.

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1367454]I think this might get ugly. The list of injuries is long. Barkley is in great form.[/QUOTE]Coaching alone gives us a huge leg up. Wanting to atone for the Steeler loss vs feeling cocky over the Cowboys shellacking is another leg up. I actually agree, it could get ugly just not for us. Expect a 38- 24 rout or something similar. These two teams are made up 2 entirely different mentalities, and in this game will make that clear.

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I agree coaching is likely the difference. Sirianni is probably going to do something cocky like a trick play, fake punt etc. Quinn needs to be ready to blow it up in his face. We got lucky on that fake punt Sunday, need to be 100% ready next time someone pulls that shit on us.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1367457]I agree coaching is likely the difference. Sirianni is probably going to do something cocky like a trick play, fake punt etc. Quinn needs to be ready to blow it up in his face. We got lucky on that fake punt Sunday, need to be 100% ready next time someone pulls that shit on us.[/quote]Hopefully, he'll get pissed and distracted and start talking crap to his own fans again as he did recently. We need to pound the rock bigtime in this game. Really hope we get B-Rob back. It will open up the passing game. Just minimize Philly's big plays and protect the ball should be the gameplan.

Go Commanders!

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As much as we need BRob and Lattimore, if they are still not 100% then I think they should sit this out. We will need them for the rest of the season to ensure we get into playoffs.

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[quote=GridIron26;1367463]As much as we need BRob and Lattimore, if they are still not 100% then I think they should sit this out. We will need them for the rest of the season to ensure we get into playoffs.[/quote]I am still having nightmares about how bad Brown torched us in Philly last year. Pretty much embarassed our secondary. I want Lattimore back asap. This is a big game. Yes, we can lose and go to the playoffs. If we win, team confidence soars and we are in the driver's seat.

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I dont see us winning this game. Our defensive secondary, particularly CB is not much better than last year when we got slaughtered. However, not sure the end result will be as embarrassing. The truth is, the eagles have better players across the board. They are a better team. Remember preseason win estimates? There is a reason for that. We are still overperforming, Philly is not. Of course any given
Sunday. And now they have Barkley too, sheesh. They are a Superbowl contender, we are hoping to have a winning record, and now a playoff birth. We are WAY ahead of schedule win or lose. Frankly, I just want to beat Dallas. That is my true joy!

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I dont think it makes sense to play brob or lattimore on 4 days with a 10 day break with nagging injuries that could last the rest if the season. We just have to do the best we can. I am also worried about our pushing our OT injuries. I say, do so crazy crap with our backups and see if we can pull off a short week, short handed upset. I actually think the eagles should be favored by 10 in our current scenario

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1367465]I am still having nightmares about how bad Brown torched us in Philly last year. Pretty much embarassed our secondary. I want Lattimore back asap. This is a big game. Yes, we can lose and go to the playoffs. If we win, team confidence soars and we are in the driver's seat.[/quote]

There are two possible scenarios when Lattimore plays with the injury: (1) Lattimore plays when he is not 100% healthy, and the team win/lose the game. Or (2) Lattimore plays when he is not 100% and then reaggravate the injury and is expected to be out for next multiple games, and the team win/lose the game.

Are you prepared to accept the #2 scenario? I'm not, hence the desire to wait until he is fully healthy.

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In the last 5 weeks the Iggles have squeaked out two wins vs the Browns and Jaguars. Anyone who thinks we have no chance is crazy.

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If we lose, we’re still 7-4 and the schedule is still favorable to at least 10-7 at worst and that should get us a playoff berth.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1367469]In the last 5 weeks the Iggles have squeaked out two wins vs the Browns and Jaguars. Anyone who thinks we have no chance is crazy.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Philly has the hype that Dallas has lost with their collapse. Our team has gone toe to toe with Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Philly had a mild spasm after a close loss to the Browns. When we punch them in the face they won't step into it, they will play the blame game. We are the better TEAM, and if Lattimore can go, we have the better players too. As to the comment about preseason rankings, most people didn't fathom what a complete and functional overhaul our front office made, and they also dismiss the underlying issues that Philly has around their (team?).

If we don't win by a touchdown, I will be shocked.

One other thing I believe is true, is JD5 steps up in the lights and we are going to see the team reminiscent of the Cincy game.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1367455]Coaching alone gives us a huge leg up. Wanting to atone for the Steeler loss vs feeling cocky over the Cowboys shellacking is another leg up. I actually agree, it could get ugly just not for us. Expect a 38- 24 rout or something similar. These two teams are made up 2 entirely different mentalities, and in this game will make that clear.

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I agree we have an advantage in coaching but I am more concerned about the injury lists.

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I hate them and hope we win. I really hope fucking destroy them... but we're just not there yet as a team and especially not on defense

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I think the coaching staff simply needs to decide whether Lattimore, BRob, Wylie, and Lucas play based on what the medical staff says. If they're cleared, play them. If not, don't. They just need some clarity from the medical staff. I'd love to see all of them (or at least some of them) play because I think without Lattimore and at least one of Wylie or Lucas, we're in trouble between their D-line and WRs. BRob would be great too, but I actually think he's less important than keeping AJ Brown and D. Smith from torching us deep, and keeping JD5 from getting killed. As we saw last week, KK can scheme around the loss of our RT with chips, sliding over help, quick throws, etc., but it does limit our offense and we have now just previewed what that looks like to Philly care of Sunday's game.

Winning this game would be more satisfying than any win so far this season, to me, at least, as I think Philly is the class of our division until we prove otherwise. And you know if we beat them at home, the Sirianni v. team banter will come up again, as it has already this season. My real fantasy is that we blow them out at home and then the fans turn on Sirianni (again) and it becomes a cluster. But perhaps too much to ask for when our team is banged up and playing on a short week (and after having a much stiffer contest on Sunday than Philly did).

One last thing -- i really hope that Philly doesn't do the tush push again. I hate that play with the intensity of a thousand suns. Weak ass shit isn't real football to me.

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[quote=GridIron26;1367468]There are two possible scenarios when Lattimore plays with the injury: (1) Lattimore plays when he is not 100% healthy, and the team win/lose the game. Or (2) Lattimore plays when he is not 100% and then reaggravate the injury and is expected to be out for next multiple games, and the team win/lose the game.

Are you prepared to accept the #2 scenario? I'm not, hence the desire to wait until he is fully healthy.[/quote]We did not trade draft picks for a 4 time pro bowler at a position of weakness for him to sit on the bench, especially in a huge divisional game with the top 2 teams. If he has a minimal chance of reggravating the injury and he's cleared play him. Rewatch last years Commanders and Eagles last year in Philly if you feel differently.

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If a player can agrevate an injury and be out for a month it would be stupid to play him, and they are not stupid.

I'm not feeling this one. We are beat up and not playing our best. Sure the Eagles are beating bad teams but they are more talented and their best players (WR) go against our weakness. People counted the Eagles out too soon, this one could get ugly.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1367484]If a player can agrevate an injury and be out for a month it would be stupid to play him, and they are not stupid.

I'm not feeling this one. We are beat up and not playing our best. Sure the Eagles are beating bad teams but they are more talented and their best players (WR) go against our weakness. People counted the Eagles out too soon, this one could get ugly.[/quote]Not looking promising on Lattimore:

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/marshon-lattimore-dnp-brian-robinson-limited-on-tuesday-injury-report[/url]

B-Rob listed as limited currently.

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[QUOTE=Darrell Green Fan;1367484]If a player can agrevate an injury and be out for a month it would be stupid to play him, and they are not stupid.



I'm not feeling this one. We are beat up and not playing our best. Sure the Eagles are beating bad teams but they are more talented and their best players (WR) go against our weakness. People counted the Eagles out too soon, this one could get ugly.[/QUOTE]We have a ten day break and a bye week in that month, this game Thursday has division and playoff implications. If Lattimore even plays 30 snaps our chances of winning are increased immensely. If it tighens then sit him down, but our rookie qb is playing with bruised ribs (or something), our OLine has tons of bumps and bruises. It's week 11, injuries can happen to any player.

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edit: in addition to the mini bye, and bye weeks our next two opponents are dallas and tennessee, we really have 38 days after this Thursday before we play the Eagles again. If players do need a month to get healthy we have that.

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[quote=88Commanders00;1367470]If we lose, we’re still 7-4 and the schedule is still favorable to at least 10-7 at worst and that should get us a playoff berth.[/quote]


We will hopefully get healthy. Would love to win but not concerned if we lose. I am just hoping we do not get many injuries.

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Begrudgingly I agree with those saying better to rest injured starters for Thursday. Take teh 10 days and get healthy, if we still beat the Eagles wonderful, but better to beat everyone else then beat them in teh next game than lose someone like Lattimore or BRob for an extended period. We have to have one eye on the playoffs now. Don't want to get there and have little or no hope in the 1st round.

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for those saying to hold players out - I just want to clarify, are you saying to hold them out even if the medical staff clears them to play?

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If they are cleared to play, play them. We play to win not scared. I don't think fans are recognizing how huge of a victory this would be. I'm not saying that we'll definitely win, but I will say this:

Daniels > Hurts
Quinn > Sirianni

Let's go!

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[quote=skinsnut;1367467]I dont think it makes sense to play brob or lattimore on 4 days with a 10 day break with nagging injuries that could last the rest if the season. We just have to do the best we can. I am also worried about our pushing our OT injuries. I say, do so crazy crap with our backups and see if we can pull off a short week, short handed upset. I actually think the eagles should be favored by 10 in our current scenario[/quote]

I'm into upsets - never say never, just watched JD's hail mary for about the 20th time, with the biggest grin my wife says, however it looks to me that we're too stretched by injuries for this one & will likely get exposed. I so hope to be wrong & we get the upset win..... head vs heart

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Of course if he is cleared to play you play him. But a hamstring is not like bruised ribs where you can't do further damage and it's simply a pain tollerence thing. We all know how important this game is, but there are also many more important games left to be played as well and it would be short sighted to play him while he was still injured.

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[QUOTE=Darrell Green Fan;1367494]Of course if he is cleared to play you play him. But a hamstring is not like bruised ribs where you can't do further damage and it's simply a pain tollerence thing. We all know how important this game is, but there are a lot more important games left to be played as well.[/QUOTE]glad we agree if they are medically cleared you play them. We all know that DQ isn't going to go against medical advice, so the whole discussion seems kind of redundant. If cleared then play. if not cleared don't play.

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This team has been pretty good without Lattimore and can beat Philly with or without him.
Better get to used to playing without him because he is usually on the sidelines.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1367494]Of course if he is cleared to play you play him. But a hamstring is not like bruised ribs where you can't do further damage and it's simply a pain tollerence thing. We all know how important this game is, but there are also many more important games left to be played as well and it would be short sighted to play him while he was still injured.[/quote]Agreed. Don't play anyone if they're still hurt. If they are cleared, play them. All of us need to quit overanalyzing this. Yes, Philly is good but so are we. We didn't even play that great and still almost beat a very good Pittsburgh team, honestly should have. I trust the coaches and medical staff to get all of this correct. Our boys just need to get healthy.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1367490]for those saying to hold players out - I just want to clarify, are you saying to hold them out even if the medical staff clears them to play?[/quote]

No, they should play if they are good to go. If any of them don't feel right, then sit them.

Yes, the Eagles game tomorrow is important but not as important as the rest of our season is. It won't matter if we win the game tomorrow, only to lose multiple games afterwards.

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This is an extremely tough matchup for the Commanders, especially if Lattimore is not playing. The eagles have a great RB, a running QB and two really good WR's. That is tough for any defense, but is especially tough on a defense that has to sell out to stop either. And Washington has been either all in to stop the run, opening up the passing game. Or all in to stop the passing game and get gashed by the running game.

IMO, if we are to win this game we will have to get controlled pressure on Hurts and make him through ugly pics and we will have to score every possession. I expect a 35 - 31 type game.

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I think both defenses will hold up better than expected, 24-23 type of W

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If Lattimore plays we win by 10+. If not, we only win by less than 10.

8-3 here we come. There's a new sheriff in town.

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Huge game tomorrow! I worry about 26 and 11 tho..

Eagles by 4