Taylor Formally Charged
 

:banghead: [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/24/AR2005062400535.html[/url]

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The real question is how much of a distraction will this be to the Redskins. Court date the day after the season opener as well.

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Outstanding! So much for the charges being dropped. So does this mean he is going to be done for the year?

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I feel our forum lawyers gearing up for another legal debate! LOL

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something else, will he show up for training camp and forget about the new contract deal for now..

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:vomit-smiI was hoping we could just let this one slide...

...:vomit-smi and this one is for the bachelor party I went to last night.

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Sounds like he's ok for this season

[quote]Taylor is still expected to be present for the first day of training camp, July 31, at Redskins Park. Because of continuances -- adjournments of a court case to a future dates for various reasons -- Taylor's trial is likely to be postponed until after the 2005 NFL season, which ends in January.
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It sounds like he's good for this season but he could be gone for three years. My question is if he does have to serve the three years or more how will his salery effect our salery cap. I would think we have a clause in his contract for these matters. Can anyone shed light on the matter? What a wast!

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For a first offense I think he'll be able to avoid doing time... but then again I know nothing about the legal system!

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]For a first offense I think he'll be able to avoid doing time... but then again I know nothing about the legal system![/QUOTE]

According to espn.com the charge carries a 3 year minimum sentence, so we'll see what happens.

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711]According to espn.com the charge carries a 3 year minimum sentence, so we'll see what happens.[/QUOTE]

That's correct. If convicted of the aggrevated assault charge, there is nothing he can do to avoid the mandatory 3 years. About the only thing this being his first time offense will do is keep it at 3 years instead of more than 3 years.

Fortunately the 2005 season should be unaffected. If they can postpone the trial that long, and if the defense can start to find weaknesses in the prosecution's case, there is a decent shot the prosecutor will take a plea to a lesser offense. They will certainly have a long enough time to bargain over a plea agreement.

As for MC's second ":vomit-smi".......what the heck were you thinking having a bachelor party on a Thursday night?

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A three year minimum sentence if you're not a celebrity. Then it's reduced down to a fine and community service.

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I kinda think he's going to get off. It seems like the defense may have some opportunities to poke some holes in the police evidence.

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[QUOTE=Daseal]A three year minimum sentence if you're not a celebrity. Then it's reduced down to a fine and community service.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure they wouldnt do that. However I dont think he will be convicted because of that very reason you stated. However I dont think there is any reducing this sentence. He's either guilty or not guilty. However I'm sure the fact that he's a celebrity is not going to hurt him in the slightest.

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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21]That's correct. If convicted of the aggrevated assault charge, there is nothing he can do to avoid the mandatory 3 years. About the only thing this being his first time offense will do is keep it at 3 years instead of more than 3 years.

Fortunately the 2005 season should be unaffected. If they can postpone the trial that long, and if the defense can start to find weaknesses in the prosecution's case, there is a decent shot the prosecutor will take a plea to a lesser offense. They will certainly have a long enough time to bargain over a plea agreement.

As for MC's second ":vomit-smi".......what the heck were you thinking having a bachelor party on a Thursday night?[/QUOTE]

I DIDN'T have it. I got a call about 2 AM on Wed/Thurs morning and a drunken voice was like, "Yo man, I'm back in town and getting married." It was a friend who went into the army and I hadn't heard from in about 2 years. So he decided to have his party last night because pretty much all the people he hangs out with are wastes of life that either don't have jobs or don't care if they make it.

So we proceeded to frequent Roanoke and get ALL kinds of trashed.

And now here I sit at work on two hours of sleep.:vomit-smi

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rich people celebrity lawyers almost always beat local D/A's. that being said, i think a plea-bargain for a lesser charge and probation is much more likely than this thing actually going to trial. we'll see though, i'm just an arm-chair lawyer like the rest of you guys.

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Except for the 3 or 4 real lawyers we have here...

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I'm not a real lawyer yet, but I've vowed not to engage in legal arguments anymore.

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So much for Joe Gibbs #1 rule : "Don't embarass the Redskins".

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Welcome to the board realrick.

Again the bigger issue is will this experience be enough to get this kids head adjusted. I think he will get off on this. First offense, celebrity, good lawyer etc. should help his cause.

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[QUOTE=REALRICK]So much for Joe Gibbs #1 rule : "Don't embarass the Redskins".[/QUOTE]

BINGO, BANGO, BOINGO!
:coach:

Welcome here dewd and that is a very good point.

He needs to get to camp with his tail between his legs and shut his Pie Hole. Let the hits do the talking.

peace
mike

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Honestly, the person I want to see him hit the hardest this year is Keyshawn Johnson. Even moreso than TO.

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He hasn't been proven guilty so that is they way that we should take this, he may or may not be guilty but he believes that he isn't guilty, enough that he took a lie detector test. He hasn't "thrown away his talent" and he is not "a waste" until we know for sure that he did what he is accused of doing. It is not fair to say those things (and I know i have felt the same way) until we know the facts, it is very very very possible that he did nothing but punch the guy. I don't even know how they know that he had a gun, probally witnesses and how much credit do we give them as they have been quoted on this issue asking "whats the profit for [them]". All i am saying is that i strongly believe that someone is innocent until proven guilty and that we should take a step back and look at this and not just assume that he is a common thug.
But regardless of being innocent or guilty he did embarress the redskins. I just hope that the trial does get pushed back.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]I DIDN'T have it. I got a call about 2 AM on Wed/Thurs morning and a drunken voice was like, "Yo man, I'm back in town and getting married." It was a friend who went into the army and I hadn't heard from in about 2 years. So he decided to have his party last night because pretty much all the people he hangs out with are wastes of life that either don't have jobs or don't care if they make it.

So we proceeded to frequent Roanoke and get ALL kinds of trashed.

And now here I sit at work on two hours of sleep.:vomit-smi[/QUOTE]

Rough night. Hope it was worth it.:party-smi :cheers

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Well, another question is, knowing that Sean may face time if convicted after this season, how will this effect him during this season? You can't honestly say that you can put something like this out of your mind completely....I couldn't.

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I'm not a lawyer and I don't even play one on TV. But precedents in other celebrity cases suggest that he will either win in court or the witnesses will suddenly choose not to testify - - collecting a nice gratuity of course in some kind of sidebar settlement.

I doubt Taylor will do any jailtime unless of course there is an obscure Florida law that has a mandatory sentence associated with being a MEATHEAD.

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Yes, it definitely was. He was carrying a blow-up doll around all night and the entire staff at Hooters was very cool.

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[QUOTE=Daseal]A three year minimum sentence if you're not a celebrity. Then it's reduced down to a fine and community service.[/QUOTE]

Just to be clear. The sentence for a conviction on aggrevated assault with a gun in Florida cannot be reduced to lower than 3 years. Now, whether he gets convicted or not may depend on his lawyer/celebrity status. Sorry, I just don't want people confusing sentencing with guilt.....they are two different issues.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Yes, it definitely was. He was carrying a blow-up doll around all night and the entire staff at Hooters was very cool.[/QUOTE]

Nice. Now I'm starting to get jealous.

Mmmmm Hooters.........I'm hungry for hot wings now.

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Damn... I wish I would have downloaded the pictures to my computer. The picture is priceless. I'll post it later when I'm at home.

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[QUOTE=skinsguy]Well, another question is, knowing that Sean may face time if convicted after this season, how will this effect him during this season? You can't honestly say that you can put something like this out of your mind completely....I couldn't.[/QUOTE]

People in situations like this can react two ways, it can eat away at them in the back of their minds and effect their play on the field, or they use the playing field as their escape. I guess we'll see how things go with Taylor.

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Maybe this is the wakeup call that Sean needs, I sure hope he is able to learn his lesson and still continue to play at a high level for the Skins. This sucks because regardless of when the trial is there is very little doubt that this will wear on anyone. Kobe Bryant performed on the basketball court about as well as possible while going through his court dates, but Sean is a much different guy.

At the very least he should start being more aggressive on the football field, sometimes it seems like he's the only one who doesn't realize what kind of monster he is on the field.

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Kill people ON the field, not off.

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The cynic in me says he will get off because he is a hometown celebrity with money, and we all know how that works with the justice system these days. The optimist in me says he is innocent until proven guilty anyways and hopes this will all work out.
Did anyone read the recent WaPo article on Taylor and his home life? Despite the "best ever background check" (more or less Gibbs' words), it looks like he had problems beforehand: hanging out with the wrong crowd, not wanting to leave home at all, etc. Still, it beats picking Winslow any day. What is it with guys from the "U" anyways? Theories anyone? :smashfrea

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I feel our forum lawyers gearing up for another legal debate! LOL[/QUOTE]


I feel that unless theres an unbiased witness possibly from Taylors side, or an unbiased innocent citizen to eyewitness that Taylor pointed a gun at someone he will be ok, the fact that he was shot at after he left whether it can be proven that it was the same individuals or not is a big plus for Taylor, and can go a long way to discrediting the witnesses, [which I am assuming are the individuals involved in this incident as well] which is at this point the only thing that may be able to save him from jail time, and it sounds like his lawyer is already attacking that angle, and it doesn't sound like a tough sell, I would be very surprised if these individuals have no previous confrontations with the law before this incident. But if someone creditable enough steps up and ID's Taylor as having pointed a gun he's got a real problem, under the circumstance you have to wonder how much someone really wants to get involved in the middle of a situation like that, they could be looking for a little incentive to clam up monitarily, sounds to me like finding a creditable witness in this particular neighborhood will be a tough find, not impossible but tough.


Matty, I don't claim to be a lawyer, but I did stay at a holiday inn select last night. :biggthump

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I've read about the recruiting practices and campus lives of some of the Florida colleges (All of the big three) and they basically smoke their poles to get them to come there and continually get them smoked by the entire staff for the duration.

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mm ok well there's some positive, like he gets to play this season. on the other hand the negatives are if he's conviced he faces a minimum of three years or a maximum of 16 years. hopefully he doesn't get convicted.

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[quote]Just to be clear. The sentence for a conviction on aggrevated assault with a gun in Florida cannot be reduced to lower than 3 years. Now, whether he gets convicted or not may depend on his lawyer/celebrity status. Sorry, I just don't want people confusing sentencing with guilt.....they are two different issues.[/quote]

I should have been a bit more clear. If it's looking bad for Taylor he'll get a good plea bargain. Which will keep him outta jail.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]People in situations like this can react two ways, it can eat away at them in the back of their minds and effect their play on the field, or they use the playing field as their escape. I guess we'll see how things go with Taylor.[/QUOTE]

He might us the field as his escape, but there is no way he will be able to do the film study that Greg Williams has wanted him to do so badly. How could anyone concentrate on boring film study with this hanging over their head?

This is hurting Taylor and the Redskins already.

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If Ray Lewis can get off, then Taylor shouldnt have that much of a problem. But with that being said, it will be our luck as Redskin fans that this time the "justice system" will try to make an example with Taylor!!!