campbell is culpepper clone?
 

Both have the same size
both are big and strong
both are winners
both have a great attitude

whats your opinion

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one hasn't played a snap in the nfl so i think this might be a bit premature ;)

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both fumble a lot....it's too early to tell

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I think only time will tell, its everyones hope that our rookie QB pick will be the next Joe Montana or Brett Farve.

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cullpepper is 6'7" 270, hows that the same size?

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He's THAT big?! I didn't even know that. Jeezus.

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Yeah they're definitely not even close to the same size. Campbell is tall, and pretty strong, but Culpepper is a behemoth.

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Where do people get this stuff???

6-7?!

Dude is 6-4.

[url]http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133263[/url]

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Campbell is actually an inch taller at 6-5, but Culpepper outweighs him by a good 35 pounds

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OK, that sounds more legit. I just didn't feel like checking.

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I'd prefer to compare Campbell to a young Doug Williams, although from all I've heard, Campbell has already developed a nice touch on his long passes that Williams lacked early in his career. Both have (had) rocket arms able to throw any pass in the book, both excelled on medium to long range passes, and both were good scramblers with excellent mobility (Williams scrambled far less in his later years, when he played in Washington). However, Williams was often maligned for overthrowing receivers; the papers said he was the only person who could overthrow the regime in Iran. It wasn't until after a few years in the USFL that Williams improved on his touch, allowing him to torch secondaries once he joined the 'Skins. Expect Campbell to have his share of growing pains, but also expect him to contribute sometime in the next two or three years.

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It will be intresting to see who ends up as our second string QB. I would say that skip it to him Brunell would be listed as our 2nd starting off but as thing progress that could change.

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I'd prefer Campbell to win the backup job. It's only going to stunt his development to have him as third string...

...unless they ARE planning on replacing Ramsey and I'll forego beating an already dead and decomposing horse.

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Brunell in all likelihood be the backup this year.

I'm actually kinda interested to see how Brunell looks this preseason.

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I expect Campbell to be the backup no later than midseason and if the Redskins struggle he will play (assuming QB is part of the problem) once the playoffs are out of reach.. Obviously hoping that we don't have to worry about that as we roll towards the postseason! :httr:

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Brunell in all likelihood be the backup this year.

I'm actually kinda interested to see how Brunell looks this preseason.[/QUOTE]

Me too. I haven't heard a thing about him this offseason; did he/does he have any lingering injuries, what are his feelings on PR being the starter, etc...

This Campbell kid is an interesting cat. Because of the success of African-American QBs like McNabb, Culpepper, Vick et al in the passing game (maybe not Vick yet) he won't be dogged with questions about him being a scrambling QB who occassionally passes which can only bode well for his attitude and confidence. As for comparisons size wise btw himself and Culpepper thats wholly unrealistic. Daunte looks like a d tackle.

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I just want to see Campbell in for mop up duty after Portis has run for 200+ yards and our receivers have caught a couple touchdown passes.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Brunell in all likelihood be the backup this year.

I'm actually kinda interested to see how Brunell looks this preseason.[/QUOTE]

Amen. It would be interesting to see how much of Brunell's crappy play was attributable the players around him last year. He had to play with guys who had no idea what was going on.

Then again, there's no excuse for his 1-8 performance against the Bengals (that was the Bengals game, right?). I remember Ramsey coming in and playing much better that day.

But the point remains, Brunell probably wouldn't be nearly as bad this year as he was last year. That said, I'd still prefer PR of course. But I don't mind having Mark Brunell as my backup QB, not one bit.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Campbell is actually an inch taller at 6-5, but Culpepper outweighs him by a good 35 pounds[/QUOTE]

Yeah it's the weight that makes the difference. Duante can run LBs over at the goalline when he wants to. Campbell would have to run around them.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]Amen. It would be interesting to see how much of Brunell's crappy play was attributable the players around him last year. He had to play with guys who had no idea what was going on.

Then again, there's no excuse for his 1-8 performance against the Bengals (that was the Bengals game, right?). I remember Ramsey coming in and playing much better that day.

But the point remains, Brunell probably wouldn't be nearly as bad this year as he was last year. That said, I'd still prefer PR of course. But I don't mind having Mark Brunell as my backup QB, not one bit.[/QUOTE]

Agree with all your points here...but what really concerns me is this. If we release Rod Gardner, then which wide receiver will throw the touchdown passes on our trick plays? If Gardner could do nothing else, it was throw ducks into the end zone

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]Yeah it's the weight that makes the difference. Duante can run LBs over at the goalline when he wants to. Campbell would have to run around them.[/QUOTE]

Campbell is no slouch at 228 pounds. I'm sure he could put a shoulder into a DB if he had to.

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We will see alot of Campbell in the scrimages and preseason. Should be interesting because Campbell ran the same offensive terminology and system in his senior year at Aubrun that Gibbs will run this year. He excelled in this offense and it has to speed up his development. I think that is part of the reason Gibbs liked what he saw in Campbell.
There should be less of a learning curve for Campbell than tere was for ramsey his rookie year. Ramsey had to learn a new offense while Campbell does not. I believe Ramsey played in the shotgun offense most of the time on Tulane.

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I don't think it's fair to compare Campbell and Culpepper. Campbell isn't as mobile as Culpepper is he? and also he doesn't have Randy Moss to throw to.

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[QUOTE=Duffman003]I don't think it's fair to compare Campbell and Culpepper. Campbell isn't as mobile as Culpepper is he? and also he doesn't have Randy Moss to throw to.[/QUOTE]


Neither does Culpepper, Moss is a Raider.

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whoa, whoa, Culpeper is 268 lbs (yeah i know, like Charles Mann taking snaps). if Matty says Campbell is 228, then 40 lbs (on a freaking QB) makes a big difference in mobility, poise and how he'll be played.

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players are just getting bigger and bigger. Our kicker is 6'3", 240, and our punter is 6'5", 225.

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i wouldn't start the whole comparing thing just yet, because if patrick ramsey has a breakout season this year, what are we gonna do with campbell? if the skins trade him, i'd be pissed, because he would probably go be a superstar somewhere else.

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[QUOTE=mooby]i wouldn't start the whole comparing thing just yet, because if patrick ramsey has a breakout season this year, what are we gonna do with campbell? if the skins trade him, i'd be pissed, because he would probably go be a superstar somewhere else.[/QUOTE]

Keep them both. They'll both be under contract next year for relatively low cost against the cap.

The Chargers have Brees and Rivers again this year. They'll eventually have to get rid of one, but until then, it's not a bad situation at all.

Besides, if Ramsey has that kind of season, that would mean we'll probably go to the playoffs this year. So whatever problems we face in the following offseason, I'll gladly take them and deal with them later. I just want to see some wins.

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None of it means jack.. Culpepper has won what???
Campbell hasn't even taken a snap! It's like saying "what if the Nazis won"...it's way too hypothetical.

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I'd rather J.C. develop into a great QB and become the 1st Jason Campbell and have other qb's compared to him.
:dallas:

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Exactly. I bet he's more mobile than Culpeper. I mean you can only run SO fast being that huge.

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As long as Jason doesn't develop that annoying "do-the-hustle roll your hands around" thing, I'm fine. Why does Culpepper think that looks good?

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Culpepper has won a few important season games. Nothing to speak of in the playoffs in fact you might label him a choker. HE is a big guy who gets away from teams because of speed and strength. Anybody remember last year against the skins. Our defense dominated them but he was like Tarkenton back there. Was very impressive.

What has Campbell won, a SEC title. So did Steve Spurrier and we all know what happened there. I have reservations about Campbell put he also has not played a down yet so I feel it would be unfair to give my opion till seen.

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[QUOTE=dblanch66]None of it means jack.. Culpepper has won what???
Campbell hasn't even taken a snap! It's like saying "what if the Nazis won"...it's way too hypothetical.[/QUOTE]

Won what? WWII or the soccer game against the allied POWs in "Victory"?

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I hate to say this, but Campbell reminds me of Tony Banks more than anyone else. Watching him at Auburn reminded me of Tony Banks at Michigan State which scares me to death. :doh:

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I'm probably gonna end up getting yelled at for this but I liked Tony Banks. Schottenheimer was never known for qb friendly offenses, and Banks might have been a star if he had the system and supporting talent around him. Incredible arm, great mobility, good size and strength, and a lot of guts. Too bad his accuracy wasn't better.

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Someone here compared Jason Campbell to a young Doug Williams and said that Campbell had a better touch on his long throws. I hope that's right.

When Williams was a rooke and for his first few seasons with the Bucs, he had lots of trouble with the deep ball. Tha Ayatullah Khomeni was in charge in Iran at the time and the Bucs' coach once said that Doug Williams was the only person in Earth who could overthrow the Ayatullah.

Good line. And it gives you an idea how much Doug Williams progressed as a QB in his career.

Carry on...

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[QUOTE=jermus22]I'm probably gonna end up getting yelled at for this but I liked Tony Banks. Schottenheimer was never known for qb friendly offenses, and Banks might have been a star if he had the system and supporting talent around him. Incredible arm, great mobility, good size and strength, and a lot of guts. Too bad his accuracy wasn't better.[/QUOTE] Why would we yell at you when it would be so much easier to laugh. Best joke I have heard all year.

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[QUOTE=CRT3]Why would we yell at you when it would be so much easier to laugh. Best joke I have heard all year.[/QUOTE]

man, i gotta agree. watching Tony Banks in the pocket was like watching Mark Rypien run but without the grace.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]players are just getting bigger and bigger. Our kicker is 6'3", 240, and our punter is 6'5", 225.[/QUOTE]

Jesus, I knew Hall was big, but 240! Maybe we should move him to DE. :biggthump