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MTK 08-01-2005 11:45 AM

Coles' toe an issue already?
 
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[quote][b]WR Laveranues Coles[/b]

pulled up lame near the end of practice yesterday afternoon (the lone full- squad session) and appeared to injure his right toe or foot. The extent of the injury is unknown. Coles walked gingerly off the practice field, though he took time to greet Edwards' pregnant wife, Lia.


Last season, Coles had an arthritic right big toe that nagged him all season. The Redskins wanted him to have surgery, but he refused, a disagreement that hastened his departure.

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Gmanc711 08-01-2005 11:48 AM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
I'm not going to pile on the guy. I'm glad its a problem for the Jets and not the Redskins, but the guy needs surgery. Period. If he wants to get back to the level he was at with the Jets and the begining of his career here in Washington. He was a game breaker, bar none. He's not even close to that level anymore on a consistant basis.

FRPLG 08-01-2005 11:50 AM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
The sweet taste of karma...

GoSkins! 08-01-2005 12:03 PM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
Maybe Gibbs and Co. knew what they were doing after all. Hummmmmmm

TheMalcolmConnection 08-01-2005 12:08 PM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
Yeah, I'm not gonna' give him any crap either. He played hard and played tough for the Skins while he was here.

Schneed10 08-01-2005 12:12 PM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
Yep. It was wishful thinking for Coles to think that he could just deal with the toe injury by using an orthopedic device or brace. They tried everything for two full seasons here in Washington, and he was still having problems by the end of his tenure here. At some point you have to just get the toe fixed. I can understand his hesitation because there's a chance the surgery would end his career. But at this point, his career is being seriously hampered by this condition which isn't just going to go away.

At some point the choice needs to be made; do I want a shot at a healthy career while risking the chance that I'll never play again, or do I want a long career in which I'll only be a shadow of my former self.

I'm glad he faces that choice as a Jet and not a Skin. Welcome to the team, Santana.

Sociofan 08-01-2005 12:18 PM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The football gods have already shown Washington favor this season.

saden1 08-01-2005 12:46 PM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
Is it like, against his religion to have surgery? WTF? Or is it a surgery with a high risk of f’ing up his toe altogether?

JWsleep 08-01-2005 12:55 PM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
Maybe this will convert him?

It's hard to doubt that the toe had something to do with his reduced production in RAC. He couldn't get the separation. If he does have the surgery, maybe the Jets will have gotten a good deal--if not, and the injury lingers, then the skins are going to look good here.

I liked Coles, but he didn't want to get on board. So good riddance. About the injury, some say that surgery is risky and could be career threatening. It's his foot, and his call, no doubt.

firstdown 08-01-2005 12:56 PM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
I'm so glad we made the trade. Now the Jets get toed and not us!What about all the people that said that Moss was a down grade a WR's. If his toe is an issue this year than maybe this bad looking trade (bad because of the money involved) may look sweeter than ever.

MTK 08-01-2005 01:01 PM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
The guy has made a fortune over the past couple years in signing bonus money...

Why not risk having the surgery now? It's not like he's hurting for money.

Either way, it's not our problem anymore.

firstdown 08-01-2005 01:15 PM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]The guy has made a fortune over the past couple years in signing bonus money...

Why not risk having the surgery now? It's not like he's hurting for money.

Either way, it's not our problem anymore.[/QUOTE]I can't remember did he get a new contract with the Jets and another signing bonus or did they just assume his current contract.

FRPLG 08-01-2005 01:17 PM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
He got a new deal I believe

MTK 08-01-2005 01:19 PM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
He got a new deal from the Jets with a signing bonus of approx. $8M.

Combine that with the $13M we gave him, and the guy has made over $21M in the past 3 seasons from bonuses alone.

TheMalcolmConnection 08-01-2005 01:21 PM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
He should just ask Randy Moss if he can buy HIS legs with all that money.

gortiz 08-01-2005 01:52 PM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
For all those people who give St. Joe a hard time for "his personel" moves, lets not forget this one. . . .if it turns out LaColes is a dud for the Jets, Gibbs is looking like a fortune teller!

dblanch66 08-01-2005 02:45 PM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
...how many playoff games did LC lead us to...?
Hate to say it but the only bad thing about the trade was the cap hit we took. The rest is all good for the Redskins. I think Santana is a better WR and if I remember correctly, he was someone the Redskins thought about drafting a few years back.

firstdown 08-01-2005 02:47 PM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]He got a new deal from the Jets with a signing bonus of approx. $8M.

Combine that with the $13M we gave him, and the guy has made over $21M in the past 3 seasons from bonuses alone.[/QUOTE]It's funny if you think about what happend. One of the reasons we got rid of him was do to him not having surgery on his toe. We gave him over 5 mil for the trade. The jets gave him 8 mil and the toe was never an issue. He had only one TD with 99 receptions and I would think the toe played a part in his abilty to get into the endzone.

Longtimefan 08-01-2005 04:29 PM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
I agree with you Matty, I think Coles played with that chip on his shoulder having to do with where he was drafted initially.He's done a masterful job in recouping the money he feels he lost as a result of not being drafted higher. However, I agree that I'm glad it the Jets problem now and not ours.

illdefined 08-01-2005 05:11 PM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
Coles was an utter warrior, did everything we asked of him and always gave 110%, can't take anything away from him. even hurt, he was productive for us. it's not like Brunell would've been able to throw that far if he was healthy.

now, i'll never forgive him for turning his back on us, but with all the uncertainty on offense i understand the reasons why he did. who knows exactly what he'd be like after the surgery, all that matters now is that we have fast in abundance, and hopefully we'll get the separation that was missing last year.

skinsfanthru&thru 08-01-2005 05:32 PM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
I was one of the biggest Coles' fans before this last offseason, but I have absolutely no sympathy for the guy anymore or any team he plays for. It's kind of funny how every "expert" said this was a terrible move for the skins, despite the lingering injury problems Coles refused to have repaired and the explosiveness of Moss. If anything, Coles and his agent should get props for leaching over $20 million in bonuses alone from 2 combined clubs especially the extra $8 mil from the jets even though they knew the possible risk of his toe.

monk81 08-01-2005 05:58 PM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
We took a huge cap hit because of Coles..........no sympathy here.......

HA! HA! :FIREdevil poetic justice .........

EternalEnigma21 08-01-2005 09:43 PM

Re: Coles' toe an issue already?
 
[QUOTE=illdefined]Coles was an utter warrior, did everything we asked of him and always gave 110%, can't take anything away from him. even hurt, he was productive for us. it's not like Brunell would've been able to throw that far if he was healthy.

now, i'll never forgive him for turning his back on us, but with all the uncertainty on offense i understand the reasons why he did. who knows exactly what he'd be like after the surgery, all that matters now is that we have fast in abundance, and hopefully we'll get the separation that was missing last year.[/QUOTE]

I couldn't have said it better myself. The guy (to coin a phrase) "played his guts out" for us for the time he was with us, and he didnt have the surgery because it meant he would have to sit out for a year and he opted not to last year because Gibbs came back, and he believed we were going somewhere. For him to give up after one season may be the best thing he could've done for us, so I'd just like to say "Thanks for giving us your all, and a chance to make it once it was gone."


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