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Just wondering if anyone was there--how did things look? I know it's only the first scrimmage--and given how short a time we've been in camp, we were bound to look bad against a great D like the jailbirds--but I'd love to hear some eyewitness accounts.

PS: Whatever happened, remember--it's a month until the season. This was really just a chance to get some real hitting in, and to evaluate some new faces. Also, Ramsey is going to take some time, as is the O-line, even in the best circumstances. KEEP THE FAITH!

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I didn't see the game, but I heard we didn't look that good. The offensive line wasn't playing well and ramsey didn't do that good either. I did hear that the defense looked good though, except for ade jimoh

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They have tons of stuff about it here.

[url="http://hailredskins.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=27669"]http://hailredskins.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=27669[/url]

And theres an article on redskins.com and nfl.com
[url="http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/BAL/8710867"]http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/BAL/8710867[/url]
[url="http://www.redskins.com/gameday/"]http://www.redskins.com/gameday/[/url]

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just got back, i have lost some faith in ramsey.... but its early..... also wouldn't be surprised to see a. brown jump in front of jacobs for that third WR spot.

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Looks like we didn't do to hot on offense, but the D was all over, Taylor showed up ... what sucks is Jacobs hurt his toe, and needs an MRI ...

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Me and Vishsskins went today, we went early into the A gate and sat 7 rows from the field. It was amazing because that was the redskins sid and we were CENTER 50 yard line. We could see all of the faces of the players and toward the end we walked up to the front, we got about 1 foot away from sean taylor, he actually signed a lot of stuff, he actually took my football and put on a table of things he was gonna sign and picked mine up and right before he started he got called back to the field. I didn't mind to much and told it was ok, he said sorry but i was so exited to meet him that i didn't get upset, but by FAR Ryan Clark signed more than anyone he actually signed after the game and waited as long as he possibly could.,

During the game our Defense in my opinion didn't play anywhere near the way they played last year. Springs didn't go on during the scrimmage but was talking to the players with the headset, Taylor was pushed to the second string and Bowen played later also. Taylor played very well though.

BY FAR the best player at the game was non other than ANTONIO BROWN. The first play was a practice special teams play and antonio destroyed. he took it back and was touched after about 30 yards, and they stopped the play after he was touched. during the game he got more receptions that anyone else BY FAR, now i know what gibbs and CO. is talking about. I can't wait to see him during the year.

TAYLOR JACOBS GOT HURT, HE WAS BEING BANDAGED ABOUT 10 Feet in front of us. then i was in denile and kept saying he is ok he is ok. but then he got up and lymped and the trainers got him a cart to take him off the field.

Our offense looked good besides for one position. QB- i was extremely disappointed with Ramsey and Brunnel, Campbell however played pretty well.
I got to see shotgun and me and vish were really loud, we yelled out SHotgun, and some raven fans got upset, it was third and 10 Ramsey hit a receiver(i think patten) with a 14 yard first down conversion

One great thing i saw was CHRIS McCallister gave MOSS about 12 yards of cushion. I yelled out look at that cushion and the second the play was hiked PAt hit moss with an 8 yarder.

after the game i knew where the players lot was, me and vishskins waited for a few minutes with about 6 redskin fans. The Ravens had a different place to wait for their players, THE FIRST PLAYER WE SAW WAS CLINTON PORTIS. I thought i had lost my mind. I looked at him comming by and yelled out CLINTON CLINTON. He came over and signed a football and chuckled as i told said "You're getting 17 hundred yards right" I patted him on the back and said thanks, he blew VIshskins off, Vish was hurt but got to tap him on the back as he left.

We then met John hall( he had a ice pack on), hawkins, Rabach, Ramsey(who was really nice), Salavea(me and Vish got to talk to him because we recognized him immediatly, we told him to stay healthy and have an amazing year, he was the only player who seemed to care about what the we had to say, many others started to have to rush to get everyone signed). We got RIch Parson and a couple others.
From what i heard Lavar and samuels ran by and didn't sign much. Ray Brown just shook hands, and Jon Janson was about to sign our stuff and the police motorcycles were comming and he said he had to go and ran off.

All in all i missed the end but we were definatly getting beat, Antonio Brown played AMAZING.

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Thanks for the report, BigSKIN. Only the first scrimmage, so we've got some time to get things right. Have faith, it will come.

Too bad about Jacobs--that guy just isn't durable. Sounds like Antonio is a keeper. Also good to hear about Taylor. The kid loves to play ball.

Also, it seems that we never really even tried to run the ball. Remember, Portis is our best player on offense, pretty much. That will help everything on offense.

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good to hear about antonio brown

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I've heard alot of people were dissapointed with Ramsey today. All I've heard out of camp was that he was tearing up, so its a little dissapointing. Still, we've been in camp about 5 days, so I'm not that worried at all about Patrick. If he is doing poorly in the final preseasoner against Baltimore, then I'll worry. From what I heard he started out really poorly and improved towards the end of the game. I'm excited to see the Carolina game. Hopefully everything will come together.


BTW; Did Portis play today?

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I was there and I was so disappointed. I was hoping to see a change in the offense. Nothing but the same thing as last year. 5 yard curls and screens. Antonio Brown looked extremely good. Blazing speed and made some nice sharp cuts. Portis did not play at all. For all you D. McCants fans out there some bad news. He only played 2nd team special teams. I saw Chris Cooley walking off the field and I yelled Warpath.net, don't know if he heard though lol. One thing I was impressed with was the amount of people that were there. They said 35,000 for a scrimmage is amazing. Also, Ray Lewis proved to me again how awesome he is. He had at least 12 tackles, 3 sacks and had a pick, rediculous. Our middle linebacker position looked a little suspect. No one really grabbed my attention there. I know its early, but was maybe hoping to see someone shine a bit. That's bout it from my point of view.

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Yeah, after hearing a lot about Ramsey in camp and then hearing how he did in the scrimmage troubles me a bit. But it was good to hear Campbell was doing well...hopefully he isn't a starter for another few years.

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[QUOTE=skin4Life28]I was there and I was so disappointed. I was hoping to see a change in the offense. Nothing but the same thing as last year. 5 yard curls and screens. Antonio Brown looked extremely good. Blazing speed and made some nice sharp cuts. Portis did not play at all. For all you D. McCants fans out there some bad news. He only played 2nd team special teams. I saw Chris Cooley walking off the field and I yelled Warpath.net, don't know if he heard though lol. One thing I was impressed with was the amount of people that were there. They said 35,000 for a scrimmage is amazing. Also, Ray Lewis proved to me again how awesome he is. He had at least 12 tackles, 3 sacks and had a pick, rediculous. Our middle linebacker position looked a little suspect. No one really grabbed my attention there. I know its early, but was maybe hoping to see someone shine a bit. That's bout it from my point of view.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the report, skin4life28. On Gibbs presser, he said Dmac had stiches in his hand, so they held him out of the O stuff. (Can't help his chances being hurt, though...)

Gibbs press conference is up on skins.com:[URL]http://www.redskins.com/[/URL]

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I went to the game today and from what I saw Portis was in but didnt touch the ball very much.I didnt think Ramsey looked that bad for being the first scrimmage.When they were doing the seven on seven drill I saw him whip two touchdown passes between two defenders, it was pretty sweet.also we blocked a punt attempt and that fired me right up.I was also pleasntly surprised to see just how many redskin fans were there. I say it was close to 60/40.There was a group of redskin fans playing beer pong in the parking lot and when I walked by in my Arrington jersey one of them handed me a card for extremeskins.com. So I told them I was already a member of the warpath and he said thats cool, so long as were all skins fans.other than that I didnt feel like we stunk the place up so everybody just chill out and wait for the real thing.

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Good post, love them hogs. Nice to hear the skins community was representing.

Until Ramsey wins us some games, he's going to be under the microscope, in DC and elsewhere.

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It sounds like there are somethings for the o-line to work on. Guys, don't forget that these games don't count. Ramsey got sacked four times, but sometimes in this kind of scrimmage, we are trying to see what how we can control a defense. I know that sounds crazy, but coaches like to put the offense in a few bad positions to see how the players react and also see if defenses act predictably. Then, they can design ways to exploit it.

If anyone noticed, when Ramsey got sacked, what formation were we in? 2 or 3 wideouts? Anything consistant? Were we being balanced or just passing?

It will probably take our o-line longer to gel than any other part of the team, but does anyone here not think this line is better than last years? I think that even with last years line and Gibbs familiarity with Portis, he could see 1600+ yards rushing. That should help keep those blitzers in check!

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I'm not going to get too excited or too disappointed over a scrimmage. I've read some other boards today that are full of people calling for Campbell to be the starter, I mean c'mon, get a grip.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I'm not going to get too excited or too disappointed over a scrimmage. I've read some other boards today that are full of people calling for Campbell to be the starter, I mean c'mon, get a grip.[/QUOTE]


I totally agree, Matty. Some folks out there in skins land are going nuts.

At least from now on there's another game every week!!!

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I heard Ramsey was 5/8 for 37 yards...

And people want him benched?

Ugh

Some people are even saying he wasn't that bad, I guess I'll wait to see what JC says about it.

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Guess what he said? "We've got some work to do..."

What a surprise. lol.

BTW, Ramsey hit a nice pass out of the shotgun--that was his formation in college. Hopefully, Gibbs will get comfortable with it.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I'm not going to get too excited or too disappointed over a scrimmage. I've read some other boards today that are full of people calling for Campbell to be the starter, I mean c'mon, get a grip.[/QUOTE]

Amen! Ade Jimoh was starting for Christ's sake! Our defense was missing Griffin, Arrington, Springs (for part of the "game"), Rogers, and others. I'm not too worried about them,

As for the calls for Campbell to start; the guy could be great, but he's still raw, raw, raw. He's played in drills in camp against backups and one scrimmage against third stringers, he hasn't played in one single game let alone a regular season game. I think some people need to lay off the Madden for a bit.

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It's early we have a new center Rabach and with Jansen back it will take a little bit for the line to gel.....Ramsey got sacked quite a bit so it all starts and ends with the line play...we struggled in practice too, so it showed up in scrimmage play too. Need some more time that's all...........

Glad some of the guys were able to talk to the players and even get some autographs..........JEALOUS HERE FROM TEXAS ;)

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thanks for the news guys, im not too worried about it myself, it's only a scrimmage. hopefully we can get these problems worked out and t.j. isn't injured that bad.

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My worst QB play of the day
everyone here has heard about marino's "quick arm", he can throw the ball out. It was obvious that the ravens didn't give brown enough room. on a play when brunnel was QB i said that the were playing way to close to Brownt to a raven fan, the guy said, Brown, our defense isn't scared of a no name receiver, as the play was hiked brown took off. He was open and i just kept on saying "see what i mean see what i mean" to the ravens fan, Brown was money and some of the Redskins fans listening in yelled BROWN BROWN. Finally brunnel throws Brown the ball when he is so far into the endzone. it was rediculous, had he thrown it earlier and placed it ahead of him it would have been a TD......... but since it was brunnel he waited and waited side stepped then threw. He threw to short and there wasn't much room to throw it long B/c brown was at the back of the endzone. The ball being thrown so short allowed the DB to turn around and catch it for an endzone interception. I heard some fans yell that brunnel sucks and such.
it hurt it was so like last year, i am an optimistic person but really i felt horrible about Ramsey and Brunnel. I was thinking that finaly ramsey will show the world. he didn't, only great play I SAW, was the shotgun formation. It was awsome to see it work the way it did, but i think ramsey just threw an accurate pass which he awasn't doing before.

I am not worried about our d, very few starters actually started, i thought it was cool that Springs had the headset on, i don't know if he was helping to call the plays or what, he is a leader and shows it on and off the field. Our D wasn't great but nothing to worry bout, many were out.
Offensively i am worried to be honest, i don't want campbell to start just yet, i think a good year must be given to Ramsey. we must remember however they are also an amazing D and had all their good players who took special numbers today, Ray lewis #1 Deion #2 Suggs#4. Also portis didn't touch the ball, he helped on some Play action, the field however was stretched with our speed and there big backfield gave good cushion more room for portis to get a big run in.

a little on Special teams, Tupa was amazing, chandler missed a 40 yarder, i never saw hall miss in practice or later, he hit two 54s in a row and then moved to 56 and hit it with room to spare, i did see him after the game he had an icepack on, i don't think it was anything of importance, is it normal to where an ice pack around after a game strapped to a leg? on coverage we gave up a huge play where all the raven fans started to cheer, but on returning we were dominant(moss brown thrash= domination).

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Hey BigSkin'. Can you say Camp Reporter? No offense JoeCrisp. :oink:

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Thanks for the updates from those who went and also the links that have been posted on the site. I wish I could go myself but Seattle is a world away. I commented on it a few posts ago...but the offensive line really concerns me. From what I've been able to gather, Ramsey did ok, but he's gotta get that protection! I know having portis running will help, but man...they better work those lineman to death this week! It'll be interesting to see what happens against Carolina.

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[QUOTE=everest3k]Thanks for the updates from those who went and also the links that have been posted on the site. I wish I could go myself but Seattle is a world away. I commented on it a few posts ago...but the offensive line really concerns me. From what I've been able to gather, Ramsey did ok, but he's gotta get that protection! I know having portis running will help, but man...they better work those lineman to death this week! It'll be interesting to see what happens against Carolina.[/QUOTE]

Seattle?

Are you a Seahawks fan??

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i don't even think samuels played so that is some credit to the line but it is true we were being hit. They blitzed A LOT, over again 8 in the box no room for anything short passes. it sucked because it was the same all over again. But if portis was to run i am sure Baltimore woulda not blitzed its safties as much...... talking about blitzing safties...... i know bowen played late on third team or whatever but there was a glimps of the buks game from last year, he stepped up and when it was hiked bolted to the line broke a tackle very quickly from the full back and got the sack. I don't remember if there was a flag or not on that play but damn he was FAST and he is a sack machine.

Ramsey 5 of 8 one int for 37 yards, after hearing unofficial stats it is hard to say why everyone was so down on ramsey and word is that on the radio the commentators were giving him a beat down. Now there were a few sacks and 2 being from deion which pissed redskins fans off. but 5 completions for 37 yards is under 8 yards a pass.
now Ramsey can get it done, it is amazing we are less than 1 week from redskins vs. panthers

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Bowen did look good, actually great in my opinion. I'm still wondering about our WR we really do not have any height at the position. When we have to face some tough bulky corners I'm wondering bout that.Anyone who was there what did you think about the bootleg play with Ramsey. He clearly looked uncomfortable doing it. Had happy feet, not a surprise though. I don't know if I want him running the bootleg he just doesn't have the decpetiveness like some of these other guys. Hey, but who knows that could be the last thing the defense could be looking for.

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I agree--the O-line is the key to it all. Remember--Rypien only got sakced like 9 times in '91. That's how you cure happy feet, and get a guy to look all over the field: he's not worried about getting his bell rung. This also may be the biggest thing that's changed since GIbbs left: the constant agressive blitzing. I beleive Gibbs and Buges will get it straight, and the o-line will gel, but it'll take some time.

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Taylor Jacobs... tisk ..tisk...tisk....softy? He may be potentially greatest receiver (according to Champ B.) to never be great.
This guy will get cut if he misses yet another preseason. C'mon Jacobs your chances are running out, suck it up.

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[QUOTE=Defensewins]Taylor Jacobs... tisk ..tisk...tisk....softy? He may be potentially greatest receiver (according to Champ B.) to never be great.
This guy will get cut if he misses yet another preseason. C'mon Jacobs your chances are running out, suck it up.[/QUOTE]

c'mon the guy was bandaged up and then lymped over to a cart that carted him off the field. I am hoping he will be fine.... i wouldn't call him a softy
But i do agree that he has to stay healthy after last years pre season. He is just one more in a slew of good receivers, he is replacable, which is good for us and bad for him.

but seriously guys lets hope for the best. Antonio Brown was truly amazing, for those who have not seen him play this off season trust me what people are saying is true. I really couldn't believe it, Brown caught 3x's as many balls as moss and patten together, i think. he was so fast and made one amazing catch while suspended in air. he is great on special teams and can be a big player for us

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[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]
but seriously guys lets hope for the best. Antonio Brown was truly amazing, for those who have not seen him play this off season trust me what people are saying is true. I really couldn't believe it, Brown caught 3x's as many balls as moss and patten together, i think. he was so fast and made one amazing catch while suspended in air. he is great on special teams and can be a big player for us[/QUOTE]

you seem to be forgetting that he caught those balls against 2nd and 3rd stringers on D. He's good, but like 4th on the depth charts good. In the preseason the starters uually don't play more than a couple minutes anyways, so he should continue to catch more than patten and moss for the next 3 games (i know time was more equal in this scrimmage).

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agreed during the game but in 7 on 7 drills expecially when starting at the 40 the receivers were more mixed, i still feel he was doing better, by no means am I saying that he is better than moss or patten but i for one am high on Brown, more so for special teams than receiver. Even if he is 4th on the depth chart, which i don't know if he is, he might be playing in 5 days on saturday against the panthers as the 3rd string if TJ is hurt. McCants didn't play at the scrimmage but from what i heard he is doing the worst of the receivers at camp. Thrash,dyson,brown are next up and i do feel brown did better than dyson yesterday even when they played together.

i think we can agree that our STs will be well equiped this year
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[QUOTE=bigm29]s[/QUOTE]

I disagree man, I gotta go with r :biggthump

seriously though, was there more to s?

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]I disagree man, I gotta go with r :biggthump

seriously though, was there more to s?[/QUOTE]
Lol
i don't know i am thinking s

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s...

it says it all.

lol A classic post.

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I hope I haven't inadvertently started another Question 3 here

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bigm better tell us what he meant or we could just speculate forever........ what was question 3 again

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I can see it now;

s: Question 3 part Deux