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I know this isn't Redskins news, but I just take too much enjoyment in all of this T.O. saga not to share with the rest of you.

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Believe me when I say that the only thing better than reading this espn.com blurb is listening to the fans calling in on the local sports radio station right now absolutely ripping T.O........hoping the Eagles get rid of him......and praying that their next opponent breaks his legs.

I just love turmoil in Eagles land.:laughing2

And some of you thought OUR WR situation was bad?! How'd you like to have the Eagles' problems at WR right now?:FIREdevil

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I just heard this as well! Great news for Redskins fans! I just can't see the Eagles keeping this guy. He's starting to be too much of a distraction already. I figure he goes on the trading block soon!

Funny hadn't Carolina picked up 50/50 Rod Gardner, I wonder would they had gone for TO?

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Maybe they can trade Gardner for T.O.? LOL!!!
After all, the Eagles wanted to draft him that year when we took him......they got stuck with Freddie Mitchell.....and the rest is history.

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I hear a lot of people who say they would take TO over Moss. I can't remember Moss, (Randy not Santana:) being such a distraction during training camp.

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Talk about laughing his ass off, Freddie Mitchell has to be enjoying all of this!!!

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Ohhhh I love this!! TO has loooonngggg been on my list of "People who I will always have no respect for". Yes, he is incredibly talented. Yes, he made an amazing personal effort to play in the Super Bowl. For all that, he acts like a two year old (actually, my two year old shows more respect towards others than Owens). Owens shows no respect for the game, his opponents, or his teammates. If it ain't about him, all about him and nothing but him - then it is a personal slight to his magnificense.

Whether they cut him, pull a Keyshawn (keep him on the roster then inactivate him throughout the year), or trade him - it's all good to me. Even if the Eagles keep him (which they probably will do), no way he duplicates his numbers from last year simply b/c McNabb will find a new target.

Philly w/out Owens, Pinkston and Mitchell. Hell, even Ade could cover what they got left.

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Well all had that debate...and the most of us agreed he wanted too much money and his atitude would not fit in with our team. I think his antics and temper tantrums and the ME atitude would have brought our team down and I think Coach Fox would have thought that too:)



[QUOTE=12thMan]I just heard this as well! Great news for Redskins fans! I just can't see the Eagles keeping this guy. He's starting to be too much of a distraction already. I figure he goes on the trading block soon!

Funny hadn't Carolina picked up 50/50 Rod Gardner, I wonder would they had gone for TO?[/QUOTE]

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I tell you what will be interesting to see....Reid basically showed Mitchell the door after he made too many inappropriate comments or whatever. At what point does he does this with TO....is this the final straw or do they show favoritism because of his big name and big money (excuse me T.O.) contract???

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Reid might want to...but I bet the higher ups won't let him because of the Big name etc.



[QUOTE=12thMan]I tell you what will be interesting to see....Reid basically showed Mitchell the door after he made too many inappropriate comments or whatever. At what point does he does this with TO....is this the final straw or do they show favoritism because of his big name and big money (excuse me T.O.) contract???[/QUOTE]

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Has this ever happened before? I mean ever?? I cannot think of one incident where a star player has been asked to leave TC. This is f*cking amazing. The call-ins on WEEI the Fan in Philly are borderline hysterical...you'd think this guy committed murder. I would love to know what caused Reid and him to start fighting??

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From what I'm reading, TO wasent asked to leave, he just left. Can anyone confirm or deny this??

Either way, great news for us Redskins fans and T.O. haters.

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[QUOTE=BobbyLabonteFan]Well all had that debate...and the most of us agreed he wanted too much money and his atitude would not fit in with our team. I think his antics and temper tantrums and the ME atitude would have brought our team down and I think Coach Fox would have thought that too:)[/QUOTE]

If so, the Panthers would have my respect. I'll cheer for any team that slams the door in this guy's face after all the crap he's pulled.

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[QUOTE=Davnpurt]Has this ever happened before? I mean ever?? I cannot think of one incident where a star player has been asked to leave TC. This is f*cking amazing. The call-ins on WEEI the Fan in Philly are borderline hysterical...you'd think this guy committed murder. I would love to know what caused Reid and him to start fighting??[/QUOTE]


Could be related to the fact TO has missed five out of six practices. Yesterday he practiced on a seperate field with an assistant trainer. Caught balls on his own from a machine, didn't mingle with fans, teamates or media. Who knows??

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711]From what I'm reading, TO wasent asked to leave, he just left. Can anyone confirm or deny this??

Either way, great news for us Redskins fans and T.O. haters.[/QUOTE]

All the talk on the radio up here is that Reid told him to leave camp. They are still trying to confirm everything though.

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin]Philly w/out Owens, Pinkston and Mitchell. Hell, even Ade could cover what they got left.[/QUOTE]

Seriously.......can you imagine? I really doubt they'll go without T.O......but if they did they'd have one of the easiest offenses in the league to defend. Heck, Westbrook isn't even happy. I just love this.:D

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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21]Seriously.......can you imagine. I really doubt they'll go without T.O......but if they did they'd have one of the easiest offenses in the league to defend. Heck, Westbrook isn't even happy. I just love this.:D[/QUOTE]


But what's the alternative, let this guy be a cancer in your lockroom for the rest of the year. Clearly he isn't happy and it doesn't look like he's gonna be for a long, long time....at least with the Eagles. I'm telling you the Eagles will cut their losses and move on without this guy.

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I agree for the fact: He will bring the morale down on the team. And a team with a Low Morale is not going to the Playoffs, let alone the Superbowl. IMHO



[QUOTE=12thMan]But what's the alternative, let this guy be a cancer in your lockroom for the rest of the year. Clearly he isn't happy and it doesn't look like he's gonna be for a long, long time....at least with the Eagles. I'm telling you the Eagles will cut their losses and move on without this guy.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=12thMan]But what's the alternative, let this guy be a cancer in your lockroom for the rest of the year. Clearly he isn't happy and it doesn't look like he's gonna be for a long, long time....at least with the Eagles. I'm telling you the Eagles will cut their losses and move on without this guy.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you but as much disdane I have for the Feagles and their fans I do give some credit where it is due and the Philly F.O. is one of the best in the NFL. I highly doubt that they will let T.O. walk. Maybe if Stinkston didn't blow out his O-ring but not now. A core of McMullen, Lewis and Brown wouldn't scare an 8th grade rec. team.

They will throw around trade rumors for the next three weeks of camp while TO compares himself to Jesus Shuttlesworth on Steven A's "Quite Frankly" but by September he'll be back in Illy. He's too good a talent (regardless how malignant) to be cut outright.

This is, however, way too good to be true.

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[QUOTE=12thMan]But what's the alternative, let this guy be a cancer in your lockroom for the rest of the year. Clearly he isn't happy and it doesn't look like he's gonna be for a long, long time....at least with the Eagles. I'm telling you the Eagles will cut their losses and move on without this guy.[/QUOTE]

I hope you're right. I know I'd try to trade him. It'll come down to a decision of whether the Eagles are a better team with him or without him. Given their WR situation, it is going to be VERY hard for them to imagine going into the season with Greg Lewis and Rookie Reggie Brown as their starting WRs. Only time will tell........but I would love to play the Eagles without him.

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This is great...

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[QUOTE=Davnpurt]I agree with you but as much disdane I have for the Feagles and their fans I do give some credit where it is due and the Philly F.O. is one of the best in the NFL. I highly doubt that they will let T.O. walk. Maybe if Stinkston didn't blow out his O-ring but not now. A core of McMullen, Lewis and Brown wouldn't scare an 8th grade rec. team.

They will throw around trade rumors for the next three weeks of camp while TO compares himself to Jesus Shuttlesworth on Steven A's "Quite Frankly" but by September he'll be back in Illy. He's too good a talent (regardless how malignant) to be cut outright.

This is, however, way too good to be true.[/QUOTE]

We'll see....but like I said earlier Freddie Mitchell is enjoying the hell out of this:)

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[QUOTE=12thMan]I'm telling you the Eagles will cut their losses and move on without this guy.[/QUOTE]

Maybe, but I am not sure. Their front office plays hardball. You got a contract, we negotiated it fair and square - now play it, no exceptions. If he refuses, then they will fine him out the ass and go after his signing bonus. I really wouldn't be surprised if they Keyshawn him for the year - then cut him before next year's bonus kicks in.

Owens has pretty much guaranteed that he will get nothing from the Eagles. I bet they are now in "smack-down" mode. However they play it, the Eagles' FO will make sure that nobody thinks they can "pull an Owens" and get what
they want - or even a semblance of what they want. Does he want out? Well then - we aint gonna cut him. Does he want more money? Yeah right!

Nada, zip, nothing. The Eagles will do nothing that would allow Owens, in any way, to claim a small victory.

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[QUOTE=12thMan]Could be related to the fact TO has missed five out of six practices. Yesterday he practiced on a seperate field with an assistant trainer. Caught balls on his own from a machine, didn't mingle with fans, teamates or media. Who knows??[/QUOTE]

We've passed on a lot of "talented" players because of their off-field antics. We've cut/traded good players because of their off-field antics. (Jarrod Cooper, Todd Sauerbrun) No way this front office would have even considered TO. We've had our problem players in the past, but this staff doesn't tolerate anything.

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I just thought of something --- Don't the 49ers need receivers?

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[QUOTE=12thMan]We'll see....but like I said earlier Freddie Mitchell is enjoying the hell out of this:)[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin]Maybe, but I am not sure. Their front office plays hardball. You got a contract, we negotiated it fair and square - now play it, no exceptions. If he refuses, then they will fine him out the ass and go after his signing bonus. I really wouldn't be surprised if they Keyshawn him for the year - then cut him before next year's bonus kicks in.

Owens has pretty much guaranteed that he will get nothing from the Eagles. I bet they are now in "smack-down" mode. However they play it, the Eagles' FO will make sure that nobody thinks they can "pull an Owens" and get what
they want - or even a semblance of what they want. Does he want out? Well then - we aint gonna cut him. Does he want more money? Yeah right!

Nada, zip, nothing. The Eagles will do nothing that would allow Owens, in any way, to claim a small victory.[/QUOTE]

Well said and I agree with a lot of what you said, but I think Philly still will cut it's losses. If they keep him at this point the FO and team invite tons of scrutiny when or if he hit's the field. Philly fans are ruthless!

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin]I just thought of something --- Don't the 49ers need receivers?[/QUOTE]:lol: :laughing2

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Update:
The latest from reports coming out of the training camp is that T.O. was supposed to have off today to rest and rehab his groin (which Reid has repeatedly defended as a legitimate injury for a week now). TO decided to come outside (with his "bad" groin) today and have a ball boy throw him some passes while he ran routes at full speed in an area away from where the rest of the team was practicing. At a team meeting that followed, Reid confronted TO, basically saying, what the heck is going on here? I thought you were injured. You were supposed to be resting and rehabbing the groin today.......if you're good to go and practice, then that's a different story. The whole thing led to a huge argument and Reid told him to leave camp........possible fines and suspensions to come. Actually, they just said he's suspended for a week.
Basically, it sounds like TO is going out of his way to say "F#!K YOU" to every person in Philly and burn every bridge. He skipped out on an autograph session yesterday (I think it was yesterday) to say F-U to the fans, and now he's tried making Reid look like a F#!K by mocking him by running full speed as if nothing was ever wrong with his groin to begin with.
He's just such a piece of trash.

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin]I just thought of something --- Don't the 49ers need receivers?[/QUOTE]

lol

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin]I just thought of something --- Don't the 49ers need receivers?[/QUOTE]

LOL :lol: Dude that's hysterical......LOL!!!!

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[QUOTE=12thMan]Philly fans are ruthless![/QUOTE]
And the FO office knows that. Maybe they let him play and let the fans rip him apart. Owens lives/thrives on cheers and positive attention - Once the boos start it will be a downward cycle for him. After getting his ego battered by the fans, press and teammates - maybe the FO comes to him and says "See, you ain't and never were all that."

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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21]Update:
The latest from reports coming out of the training camp is that T.O. was supposed to have off today to rest and rehab his groin (which Reid has repeatedly defended as a legitimate injury for a week now). TO decided to come outside (with his "bad" groin) today and have a ball boy throw him some passes while he ran routes at full speed in an area away from where the rest of the team was practicing. At a team meeting that followed, Reid confronted TO, basically saying, what the heck is going on here? I thought you were injured. You were supposed to be resting and rehabbing the groin today.......if you're good to go and practice, then that's a different story. The whole thing led to a huge argument and Reid told him to leave camp........possible fines and suspensions to come. Actually, they just said he's suspended for a week.
Basically, it sounds like TO is going out of his way to say "F#!K YOU" to every person in Philly and burn every bridge. He skipped out on an autograph session yesterday (I think it was yesterday) to say F-U to the fans, and now he's tried making Reid look like a F#!K by mocking him by running full speed as if nothing was ever wrong with his groin to begin with.
He's just such a piece of trash.[/QUOTE]

TO is an idiot IMO. He needs to grow up. Sooner or later the other teams are going to get wise about his attitude and not sign him because they don't want their team's morale to go down with him.

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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21]Update:
The latest from reports coming out of the training camp is that T.O. was supposed to have off today to rest and rehab his groin (which Reid has repeatedly defended as a legitimate injury for a week now). TO decided to come outside (with his "bad" groin) today and have a ball boy throw him some passes while he ran routes at full speed in an area away from where the rest of the team was practicing. At a team meeting that followed, Reid confronted TO, basically saying, what the heck is going on here? I thought you were injured. You were supposed to be resting and rehabbing the groin today.......if you're good to go and practice, then that's a different story. The whole thing led to a huge argument and Reid told him to leave camp........possible fines and suspensions to come. Actually, they just said he's suspended for a week.
Basically, it sounds like TO is going out of his way to say "F#!K YOU" to every person in Philly and burn every bridge. He skipped out on an autograph session yesterday (I think it was yesterday) to say F-U to the fans, and now he's tried making Reid look like a F#!K by mocking him by running full speed as if nothing was ever wrong with his groin to begin with.
He's just such a piece of trash.[/QUOTE]


No way this guy stays in Philly. And quite frankly (no pun intended Stephen A.) the team morale will be better off without him. Good stuff PSU!!

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Another local news story above. Some conflicting reports still. Apparently Reid was rather upset about TO skipping the autograph sessions, and the routes he was running were with the Eagles trainer (at least according to this report). I'll keep updating as I hear more.

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin]And the FO office knows that. Maybe they let him play and let the fans rip him apart. Owens lives/thrives on cheers and positive attention - Once the boos start it will be a downward cycle for him. After getting his ego battered by the fans, press and teammates - maybe the FO comes to him and says "See, you ain't and never were all that."[/QUOTE]

I have to tell ya Joe this guy's ego is beyond booing and that type of thing....honestly he's so self absorbed it would probably bother the other guys on the field more than it would bother T.O. It seems he's beyond what people care or think about the situation. I'm not sure that's the remedy either.

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Today on NFL network (re-run) they interviewed Javon Walker, and I have to tell you I was really, really impressed with the way he handled the questions and his overall attitude about reporting to camp and how he and Brett Farve are getting along great. He said the contract issues are out of his mind right now, he just want's to play football. I guess my point he stands in stark contrast to T.O. how it's not all about him even though he desires a bigger deal. I was starting to lose faith in some of these guys until I hear Javon talk. class act.

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If he stayed after about the first half of the first game the Boos would stop. After about his third TD the boos would stop. If a player can back up his game the fans have short memories. I would not like a TO type player on the Skins but I wonder how long we would stay pissed at a guy if he was winning games for us.

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[QUOTE=firstdown]If he stayed after about the first half of the first game the Boos would stop. After about his third TD the boos would stop. If a player can back up his game the fans have short memories. I would not like a TO type player on the Skins but I wonder how long we would stay pissed at a guy if he was winning games for us.[/QUOTE]

That's a very good point if you are talking about Philly fans. They are among the most bi-polar fans in the world. They are the first to boo a player for any minor mistake......and then the first to cheer like crazy the minute that same player does something for them. They've done it to McNabb, Pinkston, Scott Rolen, Pat Burrell, Jim Thome........the list goes on and on. They have no loyalty to any player, but they also have the shortest memories of any fans I've ever seen. It's disgusting.

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[QUOTE=firstdown]If he stayed after about the first half of the first game the Boos would stop. After about his third TD the boos would stop. If a player can back up his game the fans have short memories. I would not like a TO type player on the Skins but I wonder how long we would stay pissed at a guy if he was winning games for us.[/QUOTE]

I don't think I could tolerate a guy who compares himself to Jesus and Rosa Parks and then calls Patrick Ramsey gay. Maybe I'm just bitter, but I would find it humorous if he did that with Brunell.

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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21]That's a very good point if you are talking about Philly fans. They are among the most bi-polar fans in the world. They are the first to boo a player for any minor mistake......and then the first to cheer like crazy the minute that same player does something for them. They've done it to McNabb, Pinkston, Scott Rolen, Pat Burrell, Jim Thome........the list goes on and on. They have no loyalty to any player, but they also have the shortest memories of any fans I've ever seen. It's disgusting.[/QUOTE]

I remember watching a regular season game where they were up by more than a couple of touchdowns and the punter slightly shanked one for about a 30 yard punt. The whole place errupted in boos. Pretty funny.