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Eagles withdraw franchise tag on DT Simon
More interesting Philly drama:
[url]http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/PHI/8781467[/url] PHILADELPHIA (Aug. 28, 2005) -- The [url="http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/PHI"]Philadelphia Eagles[/url] withdrew their franchise tag on former first-round draft pick [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/187398"]Corey Simon[/url], making the defensive tackle an unrestricted free agent. Simon was offered a one-year franchise tender, but wanted a long-term contract and never signed the deal or reported to training camp. With the franchise tag, another team would have forfeited two first-round picks if they signed the former Pro Bowl lineman. "We appreciate all that Corey has done for this organization over the last five years," coach Andy Reid said. "With the great amount of depth and talent we have along the defensive line, we chose to give Corey an opportunity to sign with another team." Simon was the Eagles' first-round pick and the sixth overall selection in the 2000 draft. In five seasons with Philadelphia, Simon had 211 tackles and 32 sacks. He set the Eagles' rookie record for sacks with 9.5 in 2000 -- including one of Dallas' Troy Aikman on his first career play. Simon was selected for the Pro Bowl after recording 64 tackles and 7.5 sacks in 2003. Certainly, Simon's high asking price was a factor in the Eagles cutting him loose, but so was their depth at defensive tackle. [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/187671"]Darwin Walker[/url] and [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/4385"]Hollis Thomas[/url] start for the Eagles and first-round pick Mike Patterson has had a strong preseason. "I think we are playing pretty good defense right now. To say I wish Corey was not here, no I wish he was here, but he's not here and, I said it before, we just move on," defensive coordinator Jim Johnson said last week. "It's an opportunity for those other guys that are playing pretty well." |
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This is an interesting development. I'm glad he's left Philly but I hope that we don't even consider signing him; he'll ask for too much money and he's overrated.
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Wish we could get him at a reasonable price though. Imagine him lined up next to Griffin.
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[QUOTE=Kevikazi]Wish we could get him at a reasonable price though. Imagine him lined up next to Griffin.[/QUOTE]
I honestly think his name is a lot bigger than his heart/talent. He's not nearly as talented as "experts" give him credit for. He was going to be benched last season (after the Steelers game) because he was playing so poorly against the run. |
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Give me Griff, Salave'a, and Noble.....no more splashy FA signings.
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[QUOTE=12thMan]Give me Griff, Salevea, and Noble.....no more splashy FA signings.[/QUOTE]
Thank you. Anyone remember the last time we signed an Eagle who had a franchise tag lifted from him? |
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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]Thank you. Anyone remember the last time we signed an Eagle who had a franchise tag lifted from him?[/QUOTE]
How about.....hmmm J. Trotter. What a bust!! |
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Quick! Someone tie down Snyder!:biggthump
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I didn't know about Simon almost getting benched. I think we still need another solid DT though, just in case Noble's knee doesn't hold up. Salave'a and Boschetti(sp?) are good players in rotation, and I'm not too sure on Cedric Killings.
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I'm guessing this is because the Green Bay proposed trade broke down. Good news for us, no matter where he signs.
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The only position on our defense im not 100% on is definitely cornerback. I think we'll be ok. But I would love an upgrade.
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[QUOTE=BrudLee]I'm guessing this is because the Green Bay proposed trade broke down. Good news for us, no matter where he signs.[/QUOTE]
I thought the Packers were having cap problems. How were they going to afford Simon? What were they offering Philly? |
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lemme be the first to say i'd be glad to see Simon in a skins uniform, he's not that old and Noble freely admits he's rusty (and running on an essentially artificial knee). maybe Simon just wants the respect of a long term deal and not necessarily megabucks.
our defensive line has been great at stuffing the run, but no one's gonna say it brought a pass rush on it's own. our sack leader was a CORNER! with a little more push from the front four our defense would have been no.1 instead of no.3 |
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[QUOTE=illdefined]lemme be the first to say i'd be glad to see Simon in a skins uniform, he's not that old and Noble freely admits he's rusty (and running on an essentially artificial knee). maybe Simon just wants the respect of a long term deal and not necessarily megabucks.
our defensive line has been great at stuffing the run, but no one's gonna say it brought a pass rush on it's own. our sack leader was a CORNER! with a little more push from the front four our defense would have been no.1 instead of no.3[/QUOTE] Two questions: 1. How would we afford Simon? Even if he's after "respect," he'll still command a ton of bucks. 2. I know it's strange for a corner to lead the team in sacks, but ultimately was there anything wrong with our defense last year? |
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k, my two answers.
1. the philly org. is infamous for treating players as completely expendable. a little Snyder attention, a back loaded long term incentive based contract and the best opportunity to spite the Eagles may just do the trick. like a more enlightened version of the Trotter deal. better numbers, better player. 2. again, a little more defensive action in the backfield instead of relying so much on the secondary would put our defense over the edge. our secondary is restructuring, and while it may end up better than it was before sometime over this season, it'd be best if the QB didn't even get that chance to test them. |
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springs was tied with griffin for the lead actually, but no1 ever says that
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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]I thought the Packers were having cap problems. How were they going to afford Simon? What were they offering Philly?[/QUOTE]
Ferguson and Davenport, right Brud? |
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[QUOTE=Big C]springs was tied with griffin for the lead actually, but no1 ever says that[/QUOTE]
right, but it was only 6 sacks. we should be getting double digit leaders. |
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[QUOTE=Big C]springs was tied with griffin for the lead actually, but no1 ever says that[/QUOTE]
That's right - they both had six a piece. I really think we should stick with what we've got in the middle. Realistcally, what are the Skin's chances of signing Simon, and more importantly who would be the out man?? |
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like i said before, Noble himself says he's rusty, and in his case it's probably actual rust on his metal knee. oh, you mean salary wise? TUPA! :biggthump
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How much more would Simon cost than let's say Courtney Brown whom we couldn't sign??
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[QUOTE=12thMan]How much more would Simon cost than let's say Courtney Brown whom we couldn't sign??[/QUOTE]
I think he would cost significantly more. Brown signed an incentive-laden deal since he's been consistently on IR or the PUP list. Simon is a Pro-Bowler, albeit an overrated one, and will want signifcant amounts of guaranteed money. There's certainly a better market for Simon than there was for Brown (even at this point in the year); the Ravens and Packers are just two, of probably about six to ten teams interested in acquiring Simon. I cannot, under any circumstances, imagine Simon getting less guaranteed money than $8 million and he'll probably command a lot more money than that. |
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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]I think he would cost significantly more. Brown signed an incentive-laden deal since he's been consistently on IR or the PUP list. Simon is a Pro-Bowler, albeit an overrated one, and will want signifcant amounts of guaranteed money. There's certainly a better market for Simon than there was for Brown (even at this point in the year); the Ravens and Packers are just two, of probably about six to ten teams interested in acquiring Simon. I cannot, under any circumstances, imagine Simon getting less guaranteed money than $8 million and he'll probably command a lot more money than that.[/QUOTE]
I just can't see us signing this guy unless we do some serious cap manuevering and shifting some personnel around. And since we have more of a need for a pass rusher I don't know how the Skins would begin to justify signing him. |
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[QUOTE=12thMan]I just can't see us signing this guy unless we do some serious cap manuevering and shifting some personnel around. And since we have more of a need for a pass rusher I don't know how the Skins would begin to justify signing him.[/QUOTE]
I totally agree. |
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i don't care where he goes, but i'm glad he's not in philly anymore.
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Avoid him like the plague. He'd mess with chemistry, doesn't know the defense, clearly has an over valued opinion of himself, and is probably not in game shape. Plus I am always wary of a Philly castoff. They are known for not retaining players but how many of those "lost players" have gone on to do anything anywhere else? Not for the skins. The last thing our defense needs is a major change of personell.
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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Ferguson and Davenport, right Brud?[/QUOTE]
That was the going rumor. It was actually some unnamed "defensive talent" on the Philly roster that was to be traded, but Simon makes the most sense. I don't have cap sheets in front of me, but if moving Davenport and Ferguson freed up $1 million (a guess), a creative GM could sign someone multi-year to a "big" deal. |
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