Jacobs on the hot seat?
 

This quote from receivers coach Stan Hixon indicates to me that perhaps Jacobs' spot on the roster isn't guaranteed:

[quote]"It's really critical, it's really critical," wide receivers coach Stan Hixon said. "He needs to get back as soon as he can."[/quote]

With Thrash and Brown having solid preseasons, Jacobs is quickly sliding down the depth chart.

What do you guys think? Could he end up a surprise cut?

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So far, we know a few things:

1. Moss and Patten are the starters.
2. They love Thrash for his ST play.
3. Antonio Brown seems like he has had a great pre-season (that drop was lame) and he also probably will be returning punts and possibly kicks.

That is four roster spots.

We are basically looking at Dyson fighting Taylor for that last spot.

Taylor plays special teams much harder than Dyson, is much younger, and has Gibbs' backing.

I think it would be a real shock to see him gone.

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[QUOTE=Drift Reality]So far, we know a few things:

1. Moss and Patten are the starters.
2. They love Thrash for his ST play.
3. Antonio Brown seems like he has had a great pre-season (that drop was lame) and he also probably will be returning punts and possibly kicks.

That is four roster spots.

We are basically looking at Dyson fighting Taylor for that last spot.

Taylor plays special teams much harder than Dyson, is much younger, and has Gibbs' backing.

I think it would be a real shock to see him gone.[/QUOTE]
Nice evaluation.

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has Dyson done ANYthing this preseason? last game was the only one i saw, and all i saw of him was half-ass an incompletion. is he supposed to be our 'possession' receiver?

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They'll keep 6 most likely.

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[QUOTE=Drift Reality]So far, we know a few things:

1. Moss and Patten are the starters.
2. They love Thrash for his ST play.
3. Antonio Brown seems like he has had a great pre-season (that drop was lame) and he also probably will be returning punts and possibly kicks.

That is four roster spots.

We are basically looking at Dyson fighting Taylor for that last spot.

Taylor plays special teams much harder than Dyson, is much younger, and has Gibbs' backing.

I think it would be a real shock to see him gone.[/QUOTE]

I agree that it would be a shock to see Jacobs gone, but only because I think they'll keep 6 WRs. Since Brown is basically taking up the kick/punt return spot, they can still keep Jacobs and Dyson around. That is unless they want to keep both Rock and Nemo, and an abnormally large number of LBs for their special teams prowess.

But I just can't see cutting Jacobs.

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While I expect Jacobs to make the team, my concerns about his toughness persist. I think he has a little bit of bitch in him.. I don't know that he has what it takes to make it in the NFL.. He seems great vs. air, but I don't think that when the live bullets start flying he is able to step it up.. Other than his rookie year with the internal injury that his injuries have been to the point that he was inactive.. Has he had any surgeries in his career or have they all been sprains and strains? He needs to know the difference between being hurt and being injured.

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[QUOTE=Paintrain]While I expect Jacobs to make the team, my concerns about his toughness persist. I think he has a little bit of bitch in him.. I don't know that he has what it takes to make it in the NFL.. He seems great vs. air, but I don't think that when the live bullets start flying he is able to step it up.. Other than his rookie year with the internal injury that his injuries have been to the point that he was inactive.. Has he had any surgeries in his career or have they all been sprains and strains? He needs to know the difference between being hurt and being injured.[/QUOTE]

dude that was like..... poetry. your name is well deserved paintrain :thumb:

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No way will they have six receivers on the roster. 4 active on gameday -- then one inactive from week to week. If you're talking practice squad then maybe, but I don't think veterans are allowed on the practice squad after a few seasons.

No, Gibbs keeps too many TEs and H-backs for 6 receivers.

I will say though, that Jacobs and Dyson both haven't shown me much of anything.

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Aren't there like 2 or 3 other WRs still on the roster acting as TC fodder? We have others yet to go who are lower on the depth chart.

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we released the TC fodder, which was Jimmy Farris, McCants is gone, i believe there is another one still here, but i doubt he'll make it past the final cuts. I think Dyson isn't gonna be here long either, he hasn't shown anything in the preseason, and I think they're willing to give Jacobs another chance.

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[QUOTE=Paintrain]While I expect Jacobs to make the team, my concerns about his toughness persist. I think he has a little bit of bitch in him.. I don't know that he has what it takes to make it in the NFL.. He seems great vs. air, but I don't think that when the live bullets start flying he is able to step it up.. Other than his rookie year with the internal injury that his injuries have been to the point that he was inactive.. Has he had any surgeries in his career or have they all been sprains and strains? He needs to know the difference between being hurt and being injured.[/QUOTE]

I think this a real dangerous game to play, just because from what I have heard over the last three years Jacobs has some intangibles you don't find in alot of players, work ethic, route running ability, etc. The question is how long do you keep holding on to him? I say give him another year if he is injured this year.

People gave up on Jimmy Smith (2ND RD Pick) big time, take a look at the first 4 years of his career, ZERO CATCHES SEVEN GAMES PLAYED!

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[QUOTE=gortiz]I think this a real dangerous game to play, just because from what I have heard over the last three years Jacobs has some intangibles you don't find in alot of players, work ethic, route running ability, etc. The question is how long do you keep holding on to him? I say give him another year if he is injured this year.

People gave up on Jimmy Smith (2ND RD Pick) big time, take a look at the first 4 years of his career, ZERO CATCHES SEVEN GAMES PLAYED![/QUOTE]


Agreed!

Jacob's is a very good special teamer as well, he has a lot going for him but he does have to get healthy, his injuries have been legitamate, he could have died from one, and we all have seen what a strained toe can do to a reciever, I think he should be given whatever time he needs to get that toe 100%, it will only linger and get worse if he doesn't, we have enough depth right now at WR to wait him out.

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[QUOTE=gortiz]I think this a real dangerous game to play, just because from what I have heard over the last three years Jacobs has some intangibles you don't find in alot of players, work ethic, route running ability, etc. The question is how long do you keep holding on to him? I say give him another year if he is injured this year.

People gave up on Jimmy Smith (2ND RD Pick) big time, take a look at the first 4 years of his career, ZERO CATCHES SEVEN GAMES PLAYED![/QUOTE]
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that they need to cut him loose now, but they do need to let it be known to him that he needs to start to play thru the pain a little more.. There are people playing with broken bones, sprains and strains need to be worked thru..

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a lot of times WRs take 2-3 years to show up, which sucks... they're like DEs in that sense, you just dont know what you got until years down the road.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]a lot of times WRs take 2-3 years to show up, which sucks... they're like DEs in that sense, you just dont know what you got until years down the road.[/QUOTE]
which is why we have to keep him

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dyson contributes to ST by being a kick returner if we need one

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[QUOTE=offiss]Jacob's is a very good special teamer as well ...[/QUOTE]

I keep hearing this. But I don't remember Jacobs standing out on special teams either.

To me, Antonio Brown has the kick/punt returner spot locked up.

If I'm wrong, and Dyson gets it, then someone please hand me an ice pick.

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Jacobs blocked a punt last year in Detroit...

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Jacobs blocked a punt last year in Detroit...[/QUOTE]

I thought that was Walt Harris. But even if it was Jacobs, then that alone would not allow Taylor Jacobs to be labelled a consistent stand-out on special teams, much less give him a pass to make the final roster cut yet again.

In fact, I'm really starting to wonder why Darnerian McCants was cut, who overall has clearly out-performed Jacobs in the short amount of time McCants was on the field.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven]I thought that was Walt Harris. But even if it was Jacobs, then that alone would not allow Taylor Jacobs to be labelled a consistent stand-out on special teams, much less give him a pass to make the final roster cut yet again.

In fact, I'm really starting to wonder why Darnerian McCants was cut, who overall has clearly out-performed Jacobs in the short amount of time McCants was on the field.[/QUOTE]

Jacobs is a very good special teams player. He really does tackle well and plays aggresive.

I have to disagree with the McCants better than Jacobs comment. Jacobs is faster, sure handed, runs precise routes, and plays ST. McCants is taller.

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McCants may not be as fast as jacobs, but normally he has great hands and a nice vertical game. I can't say too much about jacobs, because I really havent seen him do anything. Dyson has made a couple of nice catches in our earlier losses in the preseason. I don't think gibbs is gonna keep 6 recievers because of all of the talent we have at TE/FB/HB this year. We have speedy recievers and a variety of plug and play guys to line up behind or beside the LOS. Seeing a 4 wideout set is a rarity and so I'd imagine only 4 will be activated on gameday.

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[url]http://www.detroitlions.com/document_display.cfm?cont_id=108704[/url]

Taylor Jacobs vs. Washington, Nick Harris punter, 11-7-04

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It's tough deciding on the final roster this year. Do we keep Groom or go with newly signed Mohr? Do we hold on to Jacobs or let him go? Rock or Nemo...or both? Zak Keasey showed some skills..do we keep him? Prioleau, Stoutmire or Clark? With all these questions, only one thing is for sure. Ade Jimoh WILL make the team AGAIN!!!!

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I believe we'll keep both Rock and Nemo - Nemo is going to be a very valuable player for us in the future. Ade Jimoh is actually a pretty decent special teams guy....just leave 'em on the special teams!!! It's hard to say about the other guys...Keasey has been a fighter....I think right now...we have to build some depth for our defense...especially in the secondary.

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I agree Ade is a good special teams player. In my opinion, if you are not a punter, kicker, or a long snapper, you need to show you can play besides special teams. If there was only one spot left, and it's between Jimoh and Jacobs....I would cut Jimoh. (although we are extremely short on CB's right now)

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Although, if you have a choice between an injured Jacobs who may not be able to contribute at all for you, or an Ade Jimoh who can at least tribute to special teams and defense if everybody else is injured or hit by a truck, then I'd have to pick Jimoh. Of course, if Jacobs is healthy, I'd pick him. I'm afraid, though, he might be cut before we can see what he can do for us!

I'm thinking Antonio Brown is going to get alot of playing time at wide receiver this year...I know he'll be mainly a return guy, but he can be a dangerous guy!

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Does anyone remember this same conversation concerning Betts last preseason?

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Yep.....fast forward to next offseason.....what are the chances of Betts not being in a Redskins uniform?

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[QUOTE=skinsguy]Yep.....fast forward to next offseason.....what are the chances of Betts not being in a Redskins uniform?[/QUOTE]

If I'm not mistaken, Betts isn't a FA another 2 yrs. So if he's not in a Skin's uniform it would be via the trade route. And I think the Gibbs & Co. have already realized that Betts is a very valuable piece to this puzzle. Any consideration to that would largely depend on the developement of Rock/Nemo. I would hate to see Betts go anywhere.

On T. Jacobs: I would like to see the Skins keep him over Dyson simply because of the potential factor and quite frankly he's younger. More upside. I just don't think Dyson has clearly solidified his spot on the team. Although he's shown more than Jacobs, who hasn't shown anything!

He would be the last of the receivers from the Spurrier era wouldn't he?