Dr. Z explains why Skins will go 4-12 (sort of)
 

Here's his half-assed explanation:

[url="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/dr_z/09/01/predictions.explanation/"]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/dr_z/09/01/predictions.explanation/[/url]

[b]4. REDSKINS (4-12)[/b]

I know this is a vicious prediction, and since Washington has some of the most dedicated e-mailers in the land, I expect to hear from an army of them next week, just as I did last year when I picked the Skins ... what ... 5-11 or something like that? [b]Gregg[/b] [b]Williams[/b]' defense shouldn't let this happen, but it was good last year, too, and so what? I think the [b]Patrick Ramsey[/b]-[b]Mark Brunell[/b]-[b]Jason Campbell[/b] merry-go-round is a bad situation and the sign of a deeper problem -- namely that this team doesn't quite know what it's doing.

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What F*****g Merry-Go-Round? Where has Coach Gibbs said he'll play the best man available a la Stevie Spurious?

Dr. Z, please get a real job.

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F-ing hilarious.

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I think Dr. Z is getting a bit too old to be writing about sports. Actually, I think he is getting too old to be writing, period.

He is just too old.

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How is the Ramsey, Brunell & Campbell a merry go round. Last year Mark had the starting job and lost it to Ramsey. Ramsey came in and the jod has been his from there on out. Campbell only has two ways of seeing the field this year. 1-Ramsey and Brunell get hurt, and with the way our line is prodecting I don't see that happening. 2 Ramsey is playing just good enough and stays in for the first half of the year and then Gibbs sees that Ramsey is not our answer. Then the ball will go to Campbell to get him an early start for next year. I do not see Brunell getting to start in the second half of the year unless we are in realy good shape to make the play offs. I realy think its funny how a writer can write off Gibbs after one season.

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The problem with Dr. Z assessment in looking at the Skins' schedule is that he is assuming that because the Skins only won one game in their division last year, they will probably do no better than that this year. So let's look at the schedule..... They SHOULD beat the Bears, and the 49ers, because they are both at Home. They COULD beat the Bucs, the Raiders, and the Giants all on the road. They also could split with everyone in the division, the Boys, Eagles and Giants at home. That is 8 real possibilities based on their performance last year. I know some might question my win over the Eagles, but the Skins lost to them by 3 points at home last year, and I have to think that the Skins have improved more than the Eagles have improved this year. Enough to overcome those 3 points and Ramsey's INT late in the game. I would be thrilled with an 8-8 Skins team this year, and think it is more possible than Dr. Z gives them credit for.

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I don't like his assessment, but Dr Z knows a lot about football. No need to trash him becasue he doesn't think the skins are any good. Hopefully, he is wrong. Everyone is entitled to thier opinion. The only writer who gets to me is Lenny P, because it really does appear clear that he has an axe to grind in every article...

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After reading the foundation for his theory, I'm reminded of the opening paragraph of the Desiderata ..

"Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence, as far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story."

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Talking about his ass is bothersome and bothering to write him is even more bothersome. Why bother?

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Dr. Z! Now playing at the local Comedy Club! 500 locations nationwide, 1,000 near you! If you call now, keep calling!

The entire article says Dr. Z is in serious need of psychological therapy. Talks to himself way to much, replies to himself, then takes his own thoughts too seriously!

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I don't get how Dr. Z thinks we'll actually be worse this year, but whatever. He isn't nearly the tool this guy below is, whoever he is.

"Washington Redskins (5-11) – Team in personnel flux, QBs Ramsey and Brunell sub-par, [URL=http://news.mywebpal.com/news_tool_v2.cfm?pnpID=883&NewsID=657443&CategoryID=10961&show=localnews&om=2]bad defense[/URL]."

bad defense???

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Now that one is an outrage...calling the redskins defense bad just proves you are not even paying attention. Whoever wrote that should be flipping burgers at McDonalds for a living...

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GOD this article of Dr. Z is really affecting you, it's really funny 2 week ago when the NFC East prediction post was in this site all of you put the Redskins no worse that a 9-7 record some of you said. they (the Skins) will win the division.

Now 2 weeks later Dr. Z says your team will go 4-12 and you start saying "well I know we ain't that good but, we ain't that bad". Some say that a 6-10 prediction was more accurate and the most opptimistic of you said 8-8 COULD be reached if all things fall into the pieces.

Come on what happen in the last 2 week you finally accepted your team it ain't that good I agree it ain't that bad a gave them a 8-8 prediction myself putting the little giants at the bottom of the conference, but after some reporters across the league star bashing your team and saying they ain't good you bow your head and say we aint really good but we also ain't that bad.......

It's good that you're finally seeing things more clearly, its sad that it took this for you to aproach this in a more realistic way. Now I don't agree with Dr.Z with the 4-12 prediction that's to low, you have a good RB good OL and good D that will at least win you 6 games and 2 maybe 3 more. I think an 8-8 its more realistic and it could go to 9-7 or 7-9.

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ah yes, we have a bad defense, no quarterback, no running back, no offense, bad management, and one of the worst coaches in pro football. that guy is completely accurate.

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]GOD this article of Dr. Z is really affecting you it's really funny 2 week ago when the NFC East prediction post was in this site all of you put the Redskins no worse then a 9-7 record some of you said they will win the division.

Now 2 weeks later Dr. Z says your team will go 4-12 and you start saying well I know we ain't that good but we ain't that bad some say that a 6-10 prediction was more accurate and the most opptimistic of you said 8-8 COULD be reach if all things fall into the pieces.

Come on what happen in the last 2 week you finally accepted your team it aint that good I agree it ain't that bad a gave them a 8-8 prediction my self putting the little giants at the bottom of the conference, but after some reporters across the league star bashing your team and saying they ain't good you bow your head and say we aint really good but we also ain't that bad.......

It's good that your finally seeing things more clearly its sad that it took this to looked in a more realistic now I Don't agree with Dr.Z with the 4-12 prediction that's to low you have a good runne good line and good D that will at least win you 6 games and 2 maybe 3 you can win by smaller margins I think an 8-8 its more realistic and it could go to 9-7 or 7-9.[/QUOTE]

What are you talking about? I literally cannot understand half of your post.

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Again, here is the problem without looking in-depth at a team.

I'm still saying 10-6.

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]GOD this article of Dr. Z is really affecting you it's really funny 2 week ago when the NFC East prediction post was in this site all of you put the Redskins no worse then a 9-7 record some of you said they will win the division.

Now 2 weeks later Dr. Z says your team will go 4-12 and you start saying well I know we ain't that good but we ain't that bad some say that a 6-10 prediction was more accurate and the most opptimistic of you said 8-8 COULD be reach if all things fall into the pieces.

Come on what happen in the last 2 week you finally accepted your team it aint that good I agree it ain't that bad a gave them a 8-8 prediction my self putting the little giants at the bottom of the conference, but after some reporters across the league star bashing your team and saying they ain't good you bow your head and say we aint really good but we also ain't that bad.......

It's good that your finally seeing things more clearly its sad that it took this to looked in a more realistic now I Don't agree with Dr.Z with the 4-12 prediction that's to low you have a good runne good line and good D that will at least win you 6 games and 2 maybe 3 you can win by smaller margins I think an 8-8 its more realistic and it could go to 9-7 or 7-9.[/QUOTE]So whats your prediction for Dallas? I still think the skins will win 9 to 10 games this year.

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]GOD this article of Dr. Z is really affecting you, it's really funny 2 week ago when the NFC East prediction post was in this site all of you put the Redskins no worse then a 9-7 record some of you said they will win the division.

Now 2 weeks later Dr. Z says your team will go 4-12 and you start saying "well I know we ain't that good but, we ain't that bad". Some say that a 6-10 prediction was more accurate and the most opptimistic of you said 8-8 COULD be reached if all things fall into the pieces.

Come on what happen in the last 2 week you finally accepted your team it ain't that good I agree it ain't that bad a gave them a 8-8 prediction myself putting the little giants at the bottom of the conference, but after some reporters across the league star bashing your team and saying they ain't good you bow your head and say we aint really good but we also ain't that bad.......

It's good that you're finally seeing things more clearly, its sad that it took this for you to aproach this in a more realistic way. Now I don't agree with Dr.Z with the 4-12 prediction that's to low, you have a good RB good OL and good D that will at least win you 6 games and 2 maybe 3 more. I think an 8-8 its more realistic and it could go to 9-7 or 7-9.[/QUOTE]

Seriously dude, you need to learn to use some punctuation. You've got run-on sentence after run-on sentence. I can't understand what you're trying to say.

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Dr. Z is not as hellbent on trashing the Skins as that fat ass Jabba the Hut turd (aka Lenny Pastabelly, aka fat ass, aka bad comb-over). But, Dr. Z is nonetheless a moron. We're pretty much wasting out time evaluating the prognostications that these so-called experts churn out each preseason. Most experts and analysts know little more than me or any other football fan.

I personally think we're probably going to end up 9-7. Many of the teams that we are facing this season are really good on offense, but really bad on defense. Our defense should be able to handle opposing offenses, while our offense should be good enough to win games. The Cowboys and Giants offenses looks terrible; so I think we should be able to squeeze 2-3 wins out of them and possibly one win from the Eagles.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]Seriously dude, you need to learn to use some punctuation. You've got run-on sentence after run-on sentence. I can't understand what you're trying to say.[/QUOTE]

We probably should not expect too much from a Cowboys fan. Most of them are either in the clink or have yet to pass their 6th grade English tests.

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I wonder if any of this ever actually reaches Joe Gibbs eyes or ears? As I said before after the rankings and now that this without a doubt proves it. Dr. Z has officially come out and said Gibbs doesn't know what he is doing. Talk about a lack of respect. It's kind of sad really.

My name is Dr. Z. I like wine and cheese. I have no respect for the history of football. Somebody stop me geez. If you need to wipe your @#$. Read my articles please.

dr z seriously is always wrong!

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My prediction for Dallas was and still is 10-6 second on the division Wild Card spot based on our schedule, our draft, our free agents signings and that we have a much better team than 2 years ago when we went 10 -6.

Now about the grammar man I'm not writing in my mother language I'm doing my best to express myself and my point of view to you

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Seriously, Ramsey has had a worse preseason than Brunell, but has coach Gibbs given any indication that ANYONE besides Patrick Ramsey would be the guy for this team??

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Bad Defense??? I am truly laughing my ass off!!!!

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Gentlemen, we can get as pissed off as we want about these types of predictions, but until this team shapes up and starts performing the way all of us [I]think[/I] they can, we can look forward to more of this.

Since 2002, this franchise has generated records of 7-9, 5-11, and 6-10. That’s the mark of a bad football team no matter how you slice it. Honestly, what has happened that would make any outsider believe that this is a playoff team on the verge of a breakout season? As fans, the only thing we have to cling to is hope. The same way we would look at the Cleveland Browns, the San Fransisco 49ers, or the Houston Texans – some other knowledgeable observer of the NFL could look at us and sum up the same type of expectations. The only way to change that is to start winning. But every year, we seem to find ourselves uttering the same familiar words: “Maybe next year.”

Either this team is full of great players who manage to underachieve season after season, or they’re just plain bad, and not even Joe Gibbs can do anything to change it.

This may infuriate a lot of us, but then, the truth usually does.

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the skins will win the east this year and they'll do it in grand fashion, they will sweep the giants, dallas and the eagles.

no i'm not joking around. the skins will surprise alot of people this year. the defense will be better than last year's and the offense will finish in the top 12.

the cowriods will be the worst team in the east. their defense will struggle worse than many think and their offense will end the year ranked no better than 25th.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]I don't get how Dr. Z thinks we'll actually be worse this year, but whatever. He isn't nearly the tool this guy below is, whoever he is.

"Washington Redskins (5-11) – Team in personnel flux, QBs Ramsey and Brunell sub-par, [url="http://news.mywebpal.com/news_tool_v2.cfm?pnpID=883&NewsID=657443&CategoryID=10961&show=localnews&om=2"]bad defense[/url]."

bad defense???[/QUOTE]

Ok I think we have a winner for the most jackassed prediction

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Sometimes, I feel like the Randy Quaid (sp?) character in Major League I and II... I convince myself we're going all the way, and then after week 3, I start drinking heavily and cursing at Ramsey... :party-smi

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Not that i like defending cowroids but..
we might have been allittle to harsh on the dalASS fan, (d'boyz). My grammer on this sight is pretty darn bad too. But all he said is that we were happy last week and not to get let down by this stupid article and he believes that we may 9-7.

We shouldn't care about the stupid article, it means nothing, that old fart doesn't know what he is talking about. 4 wins is just plain old bad. Most of us are not caring about this article at all. I surprisingly am not even the slighest bit ticked(usually i am). Lets take it for what it is........ and that is a stupid article by an even stupider man

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Call me optimistic, but I'm looking at the schedule and I easily see 4-0 to start the season. Is he saying that the Skins will then drop 12 in a row?

Again, Zzzzzzzzz is an idiot.

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wow, this is what, the 500th bad article on the skins? I ran out of pissed off at number 4.

[quote]and the sign of a deeper problem -- namely that this team doesn't quite know what it's doing.[/quote]

Well, I know exactly what they're doing, its called the clinton portis offense.

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ok Socio Fan lets see

W1 Chicago thats a W no argue there
W2 Dallas Thats most likely a L when was the last time you've won in Dallas?
W3 BYE
W4 Seatle This is a maybe going more to L
W5 Denver in denver this is an L
W6 KC To much offense and better D than last year L
W7 SF that's a W
W8 NYG that's a W
W9 PHI ok sorry L
W10 TB I put this in the maybe i really can't figure Tampa out just yet
w11 OAK L that Offense is scarry
W12 SD thats a L they liked last year and brees is still on contract year
W13 STL home game a L
W14 ARZ I don't believe in all the Hipe W
W15 DAL thats a maybe even is you don't like but history speek for it self
W16 NYG thats another W
W17 PHI this could be a W just because PHI could had the playoff clinched by then

so at the end we have 5 W with 4 maybes and 7 L as you see this canend up between a 5-11 season to a 9-7 one

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]ok Socio Fan lets see

W1 Chicago thats a W no argue there
W2 Dallas Thats most likely a L when was the last time you've won in Dallas?
W3 BYE
W4 Seatle This is a maybe going more to L
W5 Denver in denver this is an L
W6 KC To much offense and better D than last year L
W7 SF that's a W
W8 NYG that's a W
W9 PHI ok sorry L
W10 TB I put this in the maybe i really can't figure Tampa out just yet
w11 OAK L that Offense is scarry
W12 SD thats a L they liked last year and brees is still on contract year
W13 STL home game a L
W14 ARZ I don't believe in all the Hipe W
W15 DAL thats a maybe even is you don't like but history speek for it self
W16 NYG thats another W
W17 PHI this could be a W just because PHI could had the playoff clinched by then

so at the end we have 5 W with 4 maybes and 7 L as you see this canend up between a 5-11 season to a 9-7 one[/QUOTE]

The only disagreements I have with you are the games against Oakland and San Diego. The Chargers were a mirage last year, and got knocked out of the playoffs in the first round. Granted, they MADE it to the playoffs, which is more than we've been able to sniff at recently, but they remind me of the 2001 Chicago Bears -- things just seemed to go their way, and reality caught up with them.

Oakland's offense doesn't scare me at all. We've handled Randy Moss in the past, Collins is a statue in the pocket and will get toppled quicker than Saddam Hussein's did against those Iraqi nationalists. Plus, they've got no running game and no defense. Trust me, this ain't 1983, and the Raiders haven't scared anyone since then.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven]This may infuriate a lot of us, but then, the truth usually does.[/QUOTE]

Truth? In that article? YOU obviously didn't read it. There [B][I]IS NO MERRY-GO-ROUND at QB[/I][/B]. Top 3 D and that's BAD?

I can take constructive criticism, but he's just written a lazy piece.

Don't defend the indefensible, it makes you as guilty. :mad:

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]
Now about the grammar man I'm not writing in my mother language I'm doing my best to express myself and my point of view to you[/QUOTE]

Okay, that's fine. You speak English far better than I can speak any other language so props to you. Sorry I was giving you a hard time but you are a Cowboys fan talking trash to Redskins fans.

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[QUOTE=RedskinRat]Truth? In that article? YOU obviously didn't read it. There [B][I]IS NO MERRY-GO-ROUND at QB[/I][/B]. Top 3 D and that's BAD?

I can take constructive criticism, but he's just written a lazy piece.

Don't defend the indefensible, it makes you as guilty. :mad:[/QUOTE]

While I agree that it's not a QB merry-go-round [B]YET[/B], the addition of Jason Campbell only serves to indicate that the ride could at least be warming up. Add this to the fact that Joe Gibbs himself said that Mark Brunell's final history with this team [I]hasn't been written yet. [/I] It's up to Ramsey to make sure none of this happens, but so far, #11 hasn't exactly put these notions to rest.

The truth I was referring to was that we've gone 7-9, 5-11, and 6-10 over the last three seasons. That's the mark of a bad football team no matter how you look at it. And until we start winning games and proving people like Dr. Z wrong, there will be much more pieces like his to come.

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]My prediction for Dallas was and still is 10-6 second on the division Wild Card spot based on our schedule, our draft, our free agents signings and that we have a much better team than 2 years ago when we went 10 -6. [/QUOTE]

Your draft and free agent pickups helped you on defense, but your offense is going to stink. With Bledsoe as mobile as a dog turd in December and a poor offensive line, I can't see you pulling away from the season with 10 wins and a wildcard spot.

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Lets just remember how many times, as a franchise, the Redskins have burned reporters in the last 10 years. Until we prove otherwise they're going to say we're awful. Just read it, think about it, then see what happens. I'm sure he got blasted for his predictions last year that weren't that far off.

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First off, "Hail to the Redskins!"

Second guys I would not take this stuff to seriously, most of this stuff is just because of Snyder who is a popular whipping boy for the media. Something to keep in mind regarding the current World Champion Patriots is the following:

With no running game and tough competition in the division the 1999 season was tough for the Patriots. The team started 6-2 but finished 8-8, and Carroll was fired. Luckily for the Patriots, Bill Belichick, hand-picked to be Parcells' successor with the Jets, quit after one day to join New England. After a tough season with lots of close losses, the Patriots finished 5-11.

Found the above on the following website,

[url]http://www.canbet.com/whatsnew/new-england-patriots-history.aspx[/url]

Our season last year is much like the Pat's 5-11 2000 season....not predicting a Superbowl win here, but I have good feeling about this team, that's all.

DirtBagZ