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The game was a good one with both Teams doing a pretty good job. I see the game as a Skins loss on [3] turnovers and we blew [2] BIG plays on D.

I still see this Team getting better like a train starting to get rolling.

Stuff shakes and get's knocked around as speed builds up.

Don't get me wrong I NEVER like an [L] but my Skins can hang with any Team in the NFL.

Win your Home games and 1/2 your Away Games.

Those were two hard losses and it's time to get going!

Anyone else still see us in a positive way?
*not saying thewarpath posters are all negitive

Thanks for the INFO guys.

peace
mike

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I certainly have some concerns...obvious concerns we all can agree on that needs to be corrected - penalities and turnovers. However, you're correct, I do see this team continuing to improve. Just wait though, after we win next week, the doubters will go back into their caves and we won't hear from them again until we lose another game.

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I like the example of a train starting to roll....Redskins are just starting!...i hope.

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I for one am not terribly concerned about our team. In fact, given what I thought about Brunell taking back the reigns, I am very happy.

We knew that the Broncos and Chiefs were going to be hard to beat. The Broncos just beat the Pats by 8 points and the Chiefs got LT Roaf back in time to play us. They are solid teams that barely beat us. We shouldn't be hitting the panic button yet.

That said, I think people have some valid concerns about our scoring offense, the dumb penalties, the lack of defensive turnovers, and the defense's inability to pressure opposing quarterbacks.

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I still feel pretty good about our chances of winning 10 games or so.

The offense continues to improve week to week, more points will come very soon.

Springs is so valuable to our 'D' and I think we've really felt his loss. He is arguably the most important component of the defense.

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Every time we loose a game the doubters come out, but it's good to see there are some who still have faith, and I guess that's what we call being a true Redskin fan.

Everyone seems to be so blindsided by this LaVar ordeal, that everytime we loose now it's because he didn't play. and that alone seems to keep us from focusing on the positives. I for one will be ultra glad when his situation goes away so we can concentrate on something positive for a change.

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There's no need to get down on the team as of now. We all wanted to see the offensed move the ball and maintain time of possession. That's happening. The next step is to capitalize on TD'S which I expect next Sunday against NFL's whipping boys called the 49ers.

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It's funny how the board is so busy after a loss, but relatively quiet after a win.

Just goes to show the haters love it when things are going bad.

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3-2 and we are through the toughest back to back weeks of the schedule. We go home to play SF, and we should be 4-2. That's a good mark. Then it's up to NY for a big game in the meadowlands. So I think we're not in bad shape. But (as everyone realizes) we have to fix the TO ratio, and stop giving up the big play on D. BUt if we win the games we ought to, we are going to be in the playoff fight, IMO. THat's all you can ask for at this point, I think.

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When is Springs due back?

I still think we can finish the year strong....

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I am still positive. I thought going into these last two games that they would be lucky to get one of them. They ended up outplaying Denver and KC, but that and 50 cents as they say. I think the skins have shown the league that they are a good team. They just need to take care of business in the games they should win and they will be okay. Ie: 49ers...get to 4-2 next sunday and the ship is headed in the right direction again.

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I agree OUR skins are just getting started. Hell we have dominated the opposition in near bout every catagory every week. we just have to hold on to the ball and not commit the penalties. we have dominated time of posession but you wouldnt know that with the points we have put up, so with that said we have to score when we have the ball for that long!!

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[QUOTE=Hail2em]I agree OUR skins are just getting started. Hell we have dominated the opposition in near bout every catagory every week. we just have to hold on to the ball and not commit the penalties. we have dominated time of posession but you wouldnt know that with the points we have put up, so with that said we have to score when we have the ball for that long!![/QUOTE]

Keeping the offense on for a long period of time will help the "ailing" defense.

The only thing left that we need to dominate is the score!

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[QUOTE=Longtimefan]Every time we loose a game the doubters come out, but it's good to see there are some who still have faith, and I guess that's what we call being a true Redskin fan.[/QUOTE]

I didn't know blind faith was required to be considered a true Redskins fan.

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Just glanced over at extremekins--the number of "sky is falling" threads is just AMAZING to me. An NFL season is 16 games. You look at your schedule, and you see how you can likely get the wins you need. My god, we're 3-2 with SF at home on deck. My guess is we'll likely be 4-2 after next week, and we'll see a lot of "we're gonna win it all" threads. COme on. You have to have an even keel here. Yes, the loses suck, and especially when we see that they were games we could have won. But there are signs here of a good offense. And, yes, our D has slipped in the last two. But we played two excellent offenses, on the road (at mile high and Arrow head, no less)--unless you're the 72 Fins, you're going to lose some games.

Here's the solution--win the games you should, pull out a few close ones on the road, and get better every week. Then, come December, lets see where we stand. The sky is not falling. Williams is still a good coordinator. Brunnell is still a good QB. Samules is still a good LT. Etc. What wins games is error free, tough, smart football. We've got the players and coaches to do it, but we are not there yet. BUt I am optimistic.

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extremely positive... the offense is clicking and will only get better. the defense is stopping the run (the most single most important statistic on D). mental errors and turnovers are things that can be corrected.

i can't believe the sky is falling for some of these fans- it's the first time in a while where we're not totally deficient in one aspect of the game. The last two losses have been dominated by the skins- the most important numbers (scoreboard) haven't gone our way, but how can anybody that watches football NOT see the difference between the team this season and ones from the past decade?

Here's some excerpts from chiefs fans after the game:

"This Washington team is the toughest group I have seen come in to Arrowhead in a long time. This game should give all of us Chiefs fans some added confidence in what our team can do down the stretch."

"The Redskins should go deep into the playoffs if they keep playing like that."

"They gave us a run for our money in our house. On a neutral site, they might get us."

OK, you don't want their respect? How about these from the broncos' messageboards last weekend:

"Washington's offensive line should get a gameball, even though they lost"

"Really was surprised how well Washington's d-line stiffled the Broncos!"

I have no problem with guys critiquing the team- we're far from perfect and have a long way to go before we're "elite." I also respect the more critical posters we have on the forum who post here week to week. What I do NOT respect are the posters that come around criticizing only after losses- you know who you are. You're the same ones who were calling for Gibbs' head after he benched ramsey. You also disappeared from the board after Brunell started rolling up the wins. And now that we've lossed to two solid football teams consecutively, you've popped back up to call out the coaching staff... only this week, the target is GW- who has been the freakin' man in DC.

Again, I'm not talking about the "regulars" who have questioned the brunell move and arrington situation- I'm calling out all the posters who disappeared during the wins and were just itching for a reason to complain about something.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]It's funny how the board is so busy after a loss, but relatively quiet after a win.

Just goes to show the haters love it when things are going bad.[/QUOTE]

well, that or we're all too busy drinking and celebrating after a win, and after a loss, we're eating comfort food and sittin in our dark man-caves bitching to our cyber-buddies. lol

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No offense to the guys who run Extremeskins, this is certainly not their fault, but their board has become overun with fair weather, casual fans who have nothing valuable to contribute other than comical knee jerk reactions.

I really hope for their sake they can get a handle on things. It's getting really ugly over there.

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I dont even go over there. I have once or twice, but not in a long time. It takes too long to find substance. The fact that they have the authority and audacity to alienate on the "official" site of the skins is beyond me, and infuriates me.

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A win next week will make me feel alot better. If were 4-2, 6 games in, I"ll be very happy. Still, the last two weeks we statsitaclly and overlal just dominated games and lost. You cant have that.

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[QUOTE=canthetuna]I dont even go over there. I have once or twice, but not in a long time. It takes too long to find substance. The fact that they have the authority and audacity to alienate on the "official" site of the skins is beyond me, and infuriates me.[/QUOTE]

I'll only go over there right before the games, because ussually things just prior to gametime are slow around here. But yeah, that place is out of control. I mean, I'm a warpath guy, but I always enjoyed going over to ES and just surfing around until recently. That thing is so loaded with crap its not even worth checking out anymore.

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you know i would'nt be freaking out if we could get a turnover......and ARRINGTON'S specialty is turnovers ,i expect we will see him in the 49er game... it's to bad cause we could easily be 5--0 right now , and only gonna get better,if brunell can stay healthy,can you believe i'm saying that? we SHOULD HAVE WON THAT GAME DAMMIT!!!I mean god bless it,K.C. WAS OUT PLAYED ON BOTH LINES OF SCRIMMAGE....WE DOMINATED.....and those damn fumbles.. where did that K.C. lineman come from 3 sacks 2 fumbles..2 recovered.... we could use him........

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there will always be some concerns, but like u SBF I think when the skins r on their game, they can hang with anyone. I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this on this thread or another recently, but is anyone else surprised/concerned by the lack of complex blitzes by Willaims or blitzes in general? maybe I'm just forgeting them but I really don't remember too many at all this year.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]No offense to the guys who run Extremeskins, this is certainly not their fault, but their board has become overun with fair weather, casual fans who have nothing valuable to contribute other than comical knee jerk reactions.

I really hope for their sake they can get a handle on things. It's getting really ugly over there.[/QUOTE]

Why do you care what they do?

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The Redskins are making strides, but to not be concerned when they lose these close games is beyond me. Thats exactly what they did last year. They lost almost all close games. People have been upbeat when we were 3-0 because we were finally winning those close games that we lost last year.. Yea, our offense is improving but how could they not from last year. I am really excited about the efficiancy of the offense moving the ball but we get in the redzone the very first set in the K.C. game but like in the past they lost a fumble and we get no points and K.C. capitalized like Denver did last week. This should be a concern and the reference of the haters is innacurate, they should be called the concerned. It has been tough to be a Redskin fan the last decade or so and I am tired of seeing the same damn things every year. I remain optimistic because I am a TRUE Skins fan but at the same time frustrated with the mental mistakes. Peace.....

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Frustrating the past 2 weeks but we're a better team than we were last year, lost 2 nailbitiers where we [b]gave[/b] two games away at the 2 toughest places in the league to play.

On defense, we need to get healthy at CB which will allow Williams to get back to blitzing. With Rogers on a bad ankle, Harris just back from injury and the terrible, awful, horrible Ade Jimoh at #3 CB Williams isn't going to dial up the the pressure and risk giving up a big play. Arrington isn't playing, deal with it. No need to bemoan it, just deal with it. Once the CB are healthy, I expect to see the pressure on the QB increase..

On offense, Portis needs to be more patient.. On the screen pass, had he waited for his blocking to develop he could have scored. Same thing on some of the sweeps and counter trey. Up the middle is something the line needs to get stronger on, but if he is more patient those runs will come..

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[QUOTE=RedskinNation21]Why do you care what they do?[/QUOTE]

Well, as someone who knows how difficult it is to maintain an online community, you don't want to see someone go through what they're going through.

They've reached the top of the mountain with their affiliation with the team, but along with that it's brought a serious influx of idiots.

Plus it's a place I've enjoyed going to in the past. And I know they have some good guys running the show over there.

There are plenty of reasons why I care about what they do.

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This team is going nowhere if they cant score a TD on the ground. It amazes me that by this point in the season the skins have 0 rushing TDs. CRs stats and yards are nice but its points that matter and he just does not seem to have a nose for the end-zone.

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I am more positive after 2 losses than I have been in a long while. We just went against 2 of the better teams in the afc, on the road, and really could have pulled both of them out. We didn't, which is disappointing, but I really feel like this team can come together over the next few weeks.
For the first time in a while this team is starting to get an "identity."
- Moss and Cooley are go to guys
- Brunnell managing the game, making plays
- A real tough defense (w/ out one or two of their starting CB's)

We'll get better w/ the takeaways. I'm pretty positive this team can win 10 games. We seem to be building a foundation.

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I am not pleased with a loss either but... looking at the way the Skins play this year compared to last year is a huge improvement. Still need to work on redzone scoring. Maybe a few rushing tds would be nice. But not as frustrated watching the games this year as last that is for sure. Also have to watch the dumb penalties.

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I just hope we can break this streak of close games against San Fran. I don't want to end the season again with, "Well, we played great the whole season, but a couple plays just didn't go our way." I'd prefer to make the playoffs rather than dominate statistically.

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If we lose to SF THEN I may be freaking.
lol

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We are a good solid team. Our offense is starting to get going and our defense is weathering some injuries. I think two things are a matter of time till they right themselves: Our red zone scoring will go up (rushing) and we will switch the turn over ratio around. It might not even be this year when they get totally fixed...but I think we have a real shot at winning ten games they way we are playing right now.

It is so nice to have a profeesional, solid, real football team; not the last bastion of mediocrity embodied by Norval.

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I may be wrong but there was a couple of time daniels was out on a passing down and someone with 5 something was in his place. but i never saw if it was 56 or 57 or what. the mark of a good to great team is one that does not beat themselves. we have what it takes but until we get a handle on the turnover's and penalties we will continue to struggle.also we have to overcome twice as much to win the game as the other team does.i love these skins. i just wish they would get out of their own way long enough to see what they could become. here's to patience.

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I agree SBF. A loss to San Fran AT FedEx... now that may be reason to freak.

Hell, why not give ANOTHER rookie a chance to have a breakout game? How does that sound Alex Smith?

I want to see our defense eat him for lunch. Hopefully Springs will be back in full force and we'll have a turnover feast like we did agains them last year.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72][QUOTE=RedskinNation21]Why do you care what they do?[/QUOTE]

Well, as someone who knows how difficult it is to maintain an online community, you don't want to see someone go through what they're going through.

They've reached the top of the mountain with their affiliation with the team, but along with that it's brought a serious influx of idiots.

Plus it's a place I've enjoyed going to in the past. And I know they have some good guys running the show over there.

There are plenty of reasons why I care about what they do.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for expressing this, Matty. I've gotten a little flack in the past for what I'd like to call "good natured" ribbing at Extremeskins's expense. There isn't a whole lot of competition between us or any of the Redskins fansites, though. It reminds me of a joke (credit to Emo Phillips):

[I]Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, "Don't do it!" He said, "Nobody loves me." I said, "God loves you. Do you believe in God?"

He said, "Yes." I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?" He said, "A Christian." I said, "Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me, too! What franchise?" He said, "Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?" He said, "Northern Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?"

He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region." I said, "Me, too!"
Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over.[/I]

We all have a lot more in common than we have dividing us. I'm not about to push another Skins fan off the cliff because he celebrates at a different site than me.

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Not only am I not freaking out, I'm excited!

The last 2 losses were tough but check out the stats:

.......................Was.................Den
1st Downs...........28..................11
3rd Down Eff........40%................29%
Rush Yards..........125.................165
Pass Yards..........322.................92
Total Yards.........447.................257
Turnovers.............1....................0

.......................Was.................KC
1st Downs...........26..................18
3rd Down Eff........42%...............33%
Rush Yards..........101.................96
Pass Yards..........297.................178
Total Yards.........398.................274
Turnovers.............3....................0

KC and Denver are both solid teams, and have the biggest home field advantage in the league, and we still dominated them in almost every statistical category. I didn't include time of possession but we've been kicking ass there too. Of course the final stat - turnovers - is usually the most important, and that's where we've been hurting. But besides the turnovers I'm very happy with what I've seen.

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But I also agree with SBF - if we lose to SF then I'll be freaking out!

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Exactly CrazyCanuck!!! We got beat by two of the premier teams in the AFC, BARELY!!! Only reason we lost was cause of turnovers and penalties. I have been damn impressed with what this team has done so far. The only thing that I do worry about is the running game with Portis. Sure I love the guy, but is he really the right back for this team? Maybe we are still not using him right, I don't know. But as of right now the NFC East is still wideopen and the only division in football with all teams above .500