Rams to Release Kurt Warner
 

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[b]Two-time NFL most valuable player Kurt Warner, whose career deteriorated over the past two seasons because of a series of injuries and inconsistency, will be released by the St. Louis Rams after June 1, league and team sources have confirmed to ESPN.com.[/b]

...dont go to Dallas...dont go to Dallas... Warner would make a nice upgrade over Quincy while Drew Henson is learning the ropes. I hope Bill doesnt consider that as an option.

I guess I don't think it would matter. Warner is not the quarterback he once was. Even if he is an upgrage over Carter, which I don't think is a given, he is notmuch of one. Since his injuries, Warner has been substantially less accurate, holds the ball to long and lost some of the fearlessness he once had. Also, I think much of his success was due to Martz's system. I am not sure he would be all that effective in a more conventional offense.

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin]I think much of his success was due to Martz's system. I am not sure he would be all that effective in a more conventional offense.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Warner was a system guy, and not only have his skills declined within that system, the system itself is more ordinary.

I don't care how much success Warner had because of "the system" and I agree that he isn't a QB that is as good as his numbers once indicated....but if you don't think he is an upgrade over Quincy Carter, you are kidding yourself.

Carter showed some growth last year, but lets not consider him a solid QB just yet please

This is a time when I'm glad we got Brunell. I remeber there were small rumors that if Warner got released, we'd take him. I strongly dislike him, I dont think he'd make *that* much of a difference in dallas.

Warner is something like 0-8 in his last 8 starts. He's clearly not the league MVP he once was. He still could recapture some of that magic though and be a decent pickup. He's not someone to be afraid of anymore.

I throw a tighter spiral than he does.

[QUOTE=beg8878]I don't care how much success Warner had because of "the system" and I agree that he isn't a QB that is as good as his numbers once indicated....but if you don't think he is an upgrade over Quincy Carter, you are kidding yourself.

Carter showed some growth last year, but lets not consider him a solid QB just yet please[/QUOTE]


My 11 month old son could challenge Carter for the starting job. Warner would probably beat him out - just barely. That's about how much difference Warner would make in Dallas. As Matty said, he is not someone to fear anymore.

Moreover, Warner has looked scared the last two seasons.

Kurt Warner was a great story. Being an Iowan, I rooted for him in the first Rams Superbowl and was greatful to see such a rags to riches story.

On the otherhad, the entire world was oversaturated with Kurt Warner. After being force fed about how great of a story this was, I lost all intrest and was cheering for the Pats in the next Rams Superbowl.

Kurt Warner since that game has been terrible. I think you will see some team sign him right away, and make him win the starting job. IF he wins that job, then he will play good, but never as great as the situation in St. Louis was years ago. His new team wont have two of the best WR, and the best out of the backfield RB in the league.

He will strugle and never again reach the SB throwing the ball all over the place.

he's gonna go to miami or in a bit of a surprise possibly oakland. i also think his success was tied to having sprinters on astro turf who could catch, when he first came into the spotlight he had an amazingly accurate arm even on the deep routes. if he could get his head straight and throw at about 80% of what he used to be he'd still be a decent qb.

kurt warner is done.Look at the rams offensive if he cant run that.what do you all think he will do with the dalles offensive they suck.

I predict that Kurt Warner will take some team to the playoffs this year. You heard it here first. ;)

--Phin

He has the potental. I find it hard to dislike him. He could be successful somewhere else but I am not sure if he really will. I hope he does; just not when he plays the Skins. He sure will have to take a major pay cut for a couple years if not more.

I read once somewhere that Warner's has such bad arthritis that the bones in his hands are as weak as that of a 90 year old man (no offense to all nonegenarians on the warpath)

I still think Warner will be a good QB next year, hes got a lot to prove and I think he will. I hope he does not go to Dallas. The Raiders could be a possability becuase hes old. The Cowboys have fast receivers and id personally rather have Carter throwing to them then Warner.

i would love for kurt to go to dallas, so we could see him 2 times a year. this guy is a piece of crap. You know what happened the last start he had? 6 FUMBLES. lets see that 2 times a year. hed make our dline look solid. i got no problem with that

From what I understand the Raiders under Norv run the same offense as St. Louis. To some extent, so does Miami. The Cowboys run a more conservative version, but do run the same system. So any of those teams would be getting a seasoned QB ready to step in and start. Although he does have to over come his current slump.

He's not going to Miami. I'd take AJ Feely over Warner any second. If anything he'll play a mentor role, they have one of those in Vinny Testaverde in Dallas (they did sign Vinny didn't they)

oh yea I forgot about Vinny. That rules out Dallas as a team that he would go to. Hes not going to go to Miami either, they have a bunch of QBs still. The Raiders woudl only be interested in Rich Gannon were to retire, which might never happen. I see him getting picked up as a backup somewhere. Mabye Chicago to tutor Grossmen and play backup. They cut Kordell I think so they need a vet backup.

u gotta remember though that not only isn't miami's qb situation exactly solid, but the had a huge pr fiasco when marino resigned less than a week after being hired to the front office.

I hope Feeley does well for them. He looked good for the Eagle the few times I saw him play. Id rather him be in Miami then in Philly

[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES]oh yea I forgot about Vinny. That rules out Dallas as a team that he would go to. Hes not going to go to Miami either, they have a bunch of QBs still. The Raiders woudl only be interested in Rich Gannon were to retire, which might never happen. I see him getting picked up as a backup somewhere. Mabye Chicago to tutor Grossmen and play backup. They cut Kordell I think so they need a vet backup.[/QUOTE]

Bears is a good choice, good call Canes...How about returning to where he started, backing up Trent Green under Vermeil

smootsmack:

I'm not a nonegenarian - but I hope to be some day. I take no offense at your comments about "old folks" even though I am probably older than most everyone else here. When I was in high school, they could teach all of "World History" in three weeks... :)

Warner is done as a dominant starter.He would still be a good pick-up for some teams.As for taking some team to the playoffs.......I dont think so.

[QUOTE=smootsmack]Bears is a good choice, good call Canes...How about returning to where he started, backing up Trent Green under Vermeil[/QUOTE]


Together we could be great smootsmack. Bears or Chiefs it is. Lets see how it turns out.

well it's not gonna be the chiefs unless he's willing to be 3rd string and take a big ass pay cut.

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[QUOTE=skinsfanthru&thru]well it's not gonna be the chiefs unless he's willing to be 3rd string and take a big ass pay cut.

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thanks for the info

no prob. a team that suprised me being talked about by chris mortenson with the discussion of warner's impending release was pittsburgh. they have three highly talented wrs but i don't think he'd make it through the cold weather. he also mentioned in no particular order the 49ers, the dolphins, the raiders, the cardinals, and the cowboys. i might be forgetting one or 2 though.

Is Doug Johnson still backing up Vick in Atlanta, or did they get someone else?

i believe so but i'm not too sure since they pursued garcia. that'd be a good fit 2. good call smootsmack

Add in a horrible TD-INT ratio of 5-15 over his last 8 starts in which he is a sparkling 0-8 and it's hard to make an arguement in favor of Warner.

I don't see anyone handing him a starting job. He has alot to prove right now.

Yeah, I think Warner is damaged goods until he proves otherwise. Plus, any team want to deal with Mrs. Warner? They come as a matched set remember.

[QUOTE=smootsmack]Is Doug Johnson still backing up Vick in Atlanta, or did they get someone else?[/QUOTE]

I don't know if they got someone else smoots, but I am pretty sure Johnson was a UFA and was not resigned by the Falcons (or signed with anybody for that matter).

Atlanta is a possibility - and so is Chicago. Lovie Smith coordinated for the Rams, they have only Grossman and Jonathan Quinn (?) on the roster, and Grossman may need either a steady backup, or some competition to get him ready.

i agree grossman needs a backup but he really started to play well at the end of last year. i still think he's gonna wind up in miami or the blackhole for aging players otherwise known as the raiders. lets not forget gannon got hurt pretty bad last year and isn't he like 5 or 6 years older than warner?

Whose the backup in KC? I still think he'll end up in Chicago, of course then having lovie smith could go both ways. He might know how Warner has been playing and not want him.

[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES]Whose the backup in KC? I still think he'll end up in Chicago, of course then having lovie smith could go both ways. He might know how Warner has been playing and not want him.[/QUOTE]

todd collins is the backup in KC according to their team's website.

hmm, and under Vermeil Warner would be third string... I think he just didnt want him and said that as a PR move, both to make his guy feel good, and so he doesnt have to admit that Warner is done.