Walt Harris
 

I'm sure he tries hard and everything but it seems that he gets shitted on a lot... at least 2 touchdowns were on people he was covering who were not exactly A class recievers and I still don't think his tackling is all that great.
plus he was the one offsides on the field goal wasn't he?

Re: Walt Harris
 

He played awful.. The scary thing is Rogers didn't do much better.:insane:

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need to get rid of him because he cant cover...hell i can get out there a do better and you're right he was the one offsides!!

Re: Walt Harris
 

The loss of Fred Smoot is now making its impact felt. I have watched Harris play WR's 10yds away and miss the tackle and the INT. This has happened against the Eagles and the Bucs. Now Greg Williams has to get Carlos Rodgers ready to start and play the ball moreso than anything else.

Re: Walt Harris
 

For weeks I have grown more and more frustrated over Walt Harris play (or lack thereof) - unfortunately, we are not blessed with a depth of quality CBs so we will have to ride it out (hopely Carlos can get "it" soon), CB is definitely an area we should be looking at in the forthcoming draft/FA along with pass rushing DEs.

Re: Walt Harris
 

This Thread, need to be cancelled, this thread should be Greg Williams and Joe Gibbs

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I think Harris is playing hurt and it's hurting the team. Never mind letting Smoot go, we should have never let Garnell Wilds go. He could have given us some nice depth at the secondary position. And if I remember right, he did a pretty decent job at the end of last season

Re: Walt Harris
 

At least some of the problems with our defense relate to who IS NOT on our team. We can't seem to get any pass rush out of our front four. Without a pass rush from the front four, we bring LBs and CBs - thereby hurting our ability to cover. Perhaps our defense is just getting exposed for what it is: a talented back seven and a poor front four.

Re: Walt Harris
 

Carlos Rogers got torched by Sheperd too, the only difference may be that Rogers may be a more solid tackler, but that's because he plays pretty far off from I've seen. Harris tackled better today, not much better, but a little. He did bring down Alstott one-on-one, but that's just one play. The D backs were terrible and that killed us.

Re: Walt Harris
 

I was hoping Walt Harris improved but he's done nothing but let the reciever go in front of him. One touchdown he just stood there and watched a guy catch it. I really think it's time for him to go.

Re: Walt Harris
 

[QUOTE=wewhite3]This Thread, need to be cancelled, this thread should be Greg Williams and Joe Gibbs[/QUOTE]

Why call this thread GW and JG? They did their part in rallying the troops after half time. One troop named Harris has a serious problem playing man to man which means he has to replaced. But let's not forget the loss of Sean Taylor this week was definitely felt with the poor play of Pierson Priouleau. Greg Williams should have never brought him here.

Re: Walt Harris
 

on the ike hillard TD you see walt just f%$^n standing there..............

Re: Walt Harris
 

here we go again ramsey, jimoh, royal,harris let them go? everytime we lose a game we have to cut somebody?Come on fellas we just stink.Tos, big plays on def.and only 1 decent receiver.

Re: Walt Harris
 

[QUOTE=sniks]here we go again ramsey, jimoh, royal,harris let them go? everytime we lose a game we have to cut somebody?Come on fellas we just stink.Tos, big plays on def.and only 1 decent receiver.[/QUOTE]

Maybe your right...but Walt is pretty consistent in his poor play. Maybe not cut him but find someone to replace him, and if that involves cutting. Then do it.

Re: Walt Harris
 

[QUOTE=sniks]here we go again ramsey, jimoh, royal,harris let them go? [/QUOTE]

The thing about what you said is ramsey and jimoh don't start and royal doesn't do too much to hurt the team while harris got killed by wide recievers who are not quality players

Re: Walt Harris
 

my point ts every week its a team effort win or lose you cant cut everybody who plays poorly on any given week.The defense as a whole didnt play well enough to win.no sacks no ints.made simms into a probowler today.

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[QUOTE=sniks]here we go again ramsey, jimoh, royal,harris let them go? everytime we lose a game we have to cut somebody?Come on fellas we just stink.Tos, big plays on def.and only 1 decent receiver.[/QUOTE]

Obviously you don't know this team because for the second week Moss has not been the key player in the game. Cooley and Sellers are not decent receivers? With pass protection, Brunell will make the play. This team is far from a suck-ass team. We dominated the 1# defense the entire 2nd half and still had a chance to win. I just hope the Raiders and Randy Moss are ready for ass whipping we are going to put on them. Sombody has got to pay.

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[QUOTE=sniks]my point ts every week its a team effort win or lose you cant cut everybody who plays poorly on any given week.The defense as a whole didnt play well enough to win.no sacks no ints.made simms into a probowler today.[/QUOTE]

Remember, no Sean Taylor in backfield was devastating. I knew Prioleau woudn't hold it down. Where was Matt Bowen the entire game? Prioleau should not have played in front of him.

Re: Walt Harris
 

Walt Harris is playing awful hurt or not. Rogers should be starting, at least it will get him ready for the future. I don't think Smoot leaving is hurting us that much. It hurts the depth, but he is getting rocked in Minnesota and he is only playing number 2 like he would be here. This season is in the shitter....we can't cover Tampa's 1,3 and 4 WR's and had a hard time against Philly's 2,3,4's what the hell are they going to do against Moss and Porter or even Bruce and Holt. Taylor coming back will help at least.

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cooley and sellers are not deep threats. moss is the only one.

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Our biggest problem on D is the lack of a pass rush. While Walt Harris did a poor job covering today, when you don't get pressure (without blitzing) it's just too much time in the pocket to get the job done. There's no way a rookie QB should have picked our D the way Simms did today.

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[QUOTE=PSUskinsfan11]....we can't cover Tampa's 1,3 and 4 WR's and had a hard time against Philly's 2,3,4's what the hell are they going to do against Moss and Porter or even Bruce and Holt. Taylor coming back will help at least.[/QUOTE]

That's a brilliant point. Those games, against those receivers could decide the fate of this season.

Judging from what we've seen, Moss, Porter, Bruce and Holt will eat this team alive.

Re: Walt Harris
 

finally some of you guys are starting to face reality.

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[QUOTE=sniks]finally some of you guys are starting to face reality.[/QUOTE]

First of all, I've always been a realist -- almost to the point of pessimism. I've seen the flaws of this team since week one, and I don't hesitate to point them out, even when they win.

While the Skins are worlds apart from where they were a year ago, one area steps up and improves one week, while another segment takes a step back. Pass rush and turnovers continue to be a problem with no solution in sight, even with the wizard Joe Gibbs involved.

I believe the history books will eventually tell the story of the 2005 Redskins as a "middle of the pack" team -- with a 'one and done' playoff appearance.

As always though, I hope I'm wrong.

Re: Walt Harris
 

Roger stunk too. I think we really missed Sean Taylor today.

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[QUOTE=sniks]cooley and sellers are not deep threats. moss is the only one.[/QUOTE]

What difference does it make what kind of WR Moss is. Cooley and Sellers are still decent WR's moreso than any other TE and FB combination in the league. Remember Sellers has more TDs (6) than Moss (5) So please save the rhetoric about the Redskins just having one decent WR.

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I agree BEEMNSEVEN.I didnt make that statement in a negative way its just some people on this board want to make excuses every week.Just face it we still have along way to go.

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My point is Moss would be that much better with another TRUE reciever on the other side of him.Nothing against cooley or sellars they are invaluable to this team.

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[QUOTE=sniks]My point is Moss would be that much better with another TRUE reciever on the other side of him.Nothing against cooley or sellars they are invaluable to this team.[/QUOTE]

Every winning team in the league is one player away from having a losing record.

I don't here any of the NFL experts criticizing Delhomme and Steve Smith, McNabb and T.O. or Manning and Plaxico Burress for having only one WR as a weapon. Every team has one outstanding WR and RB. That's it. Anything else is on the defensive side of the ball. That's the point I was trying to make.

I bet most people can't even name the the 2# receivers for most of the teams in the league with winning records.

Re: Walt Harris
 

At this point, I really have no complaints about our passing game overall. Sooner or later though, if Moss has a bad game, and some team is able to shut him down, you would hope that David Patten is capable of picking up the slack.

I just think that Brunell is really in sync with Moss and Cooley. They are his favorite targets, they find ways to get open, and they make the catch.

Would I like another Monk and Clark tandem? Sure. But as long as we can keep a winning record, I really don't care where the passes are distributed.

The main concern now has to be the defense, with their non-existent pass rush, and big play weaknesses.

Re: Walt Harris
 

harris sucks ass bring in Jimoah!

Re: Walt Harris
 

[QUOTE=Beemnseven]First of all, I've always been a realist -- almost to the point of pessimism. I've seen the flaws of this team since week one, and I don't hesitate to point them out, even when they win.

While the Skins are worlds apart from where they were a year ago, one area steps up and improves one week, while another segment takes a step back. Pass rush and turnovers continue to be a problem with no solution in sight, even with the wizard Joe Gibbs involved.

I believe the history books will eventually tell the story of the 2005 Redskins as a "middle of the pack" team -- with a 'one and done' playoff appearance.

As always though, I hope I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]

I certainly agree that your pessimistic. If the Redskins are a middle of the pack team this year with at least one playoff game appearance, that is a whole heck of alot better than what we were just a year ago. That means improvement and progress. We're not going to change things overnight. Even if this team can only muster 9-7 or, gulp, 8-8, then it is still improvement and progress from what we were a year ago. That is something positive to build on. However, we still have seven more games to play this season, and anything can happen.

Re: Walt Harris
 

Sure helps when either Harris or Rogers can count on 'the dreamsquasher' Sean Taylor to make up for their lack of speed and experience. Seeing the secondary running into each other and leaving a guy WIDE OPEN (thank god Simms didn't see him!) was really really bad. Get well soon Sean Taylor! I miss ya!

Re: Walt Harris
 

[QUOTE=Luxorreb]Sure helps when either Harris or Rogers can count on 'the dreamsquasher' Sean Taylor to make up for their lack of speed and experience. Seeing the secondary running into each other and leaving a guy WIDE OPEN (thank god Simms didn't see him!) was really really bad. Get well soon Sean Taylor! I miss ya![/QUOTE]
Well when someone goes down ...some one else needs to step up.... grab that opportunity..... i have thought from the beginning GW's defensive style is ok but it realy's too much on people being in the perfect psiyion all the time...ad what happens when 1 person gets blocked then they are in thier places and no one to back up...i see it a s a dream defense and that's what causes big plays

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i really starting to think that im actually in with eagle fans with all the bitching and moaning going on here.last year we would have killed for 5 wins in our first 9 games with the thinking (not dreaming)that the playoffs are within reach.the reality of this years redskins is that,while they are good enough to beat any team any time,the flip side is that they could also lose to anyone at any time.i agree that walt harris was brutal yesterday,but as a team,they gave up 36 points to a very average tampa offense.we are starting to turn the corner,but coach gibbs does not quite have the right people in place yet.he is still trying to clean up a decade full of bad personal and salary cap decisions

Re: Walt Harris
 

Harris isn't the biggest problem. He has played poorly the last few weeks after a solid start to the year, but injuries may have something to do with it. Also, Rogers just needs time to develop (every rookie gets burned from time to time). My concern is with the lack of a pass rush; even our blitzes weren't getting to Simms. We need someone on that line (preferably Daniels or Wynn) to step it up.