Does 9-7 Get Us In?
 

I've been doing some studying on the playoff picture, and the following is what I've come up with...

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We can get in at 9-7. Why, you might ask? Our conference record, I would answer.

If we win 4 out of the next 5 to go 9-7. our NFC record will be 9-3, thanks to losing all of our games to the AFC West.

Obviously it would be preferable to win out, but 9-7 can do it. Here's what needs to happen:

One of Dallas or the G-Men must go 2-3 the rest of the way, to end up at 9-7. Both of these COULD happen, as long as we beat the team who LOSES their matchup next week. Assume that the Cowboys lose, since it's at the Meadowlands. We then must beat the Cowboys at FedEx. Then, they would have to lose one more game of their remaining 3. Those games are vs. Kansas City, @Carolina, and vs. St. Louis. That, I believe, will happen. If we go 4-1 down the stretch and end up tying the Cowboys in this manner, we are the 2nd place team in the NFC East.

But what about the NFC South, you say? Here's what needs to go down. One of Carolina, Atlanta, and Tampa Bay must finish at 9-7. Carolina already has 8 wins, so I really doubt they end up 1-4 over the last 5. Thus, we'll have to concentrate on the Falcons and Bucs, both of whom would have to 2-3 or worse.

Here is the Falcons' schedule: @Carolina, vs. New Orleans, @Chicago, @Tampa Bay, vs. Carolina.

Here is the Bucs' schedule: @New Orleans, @Carolina, @New England, vs. Atlanta, New Orleans.

Either of those teams, in all honesty, could end up 9-7, or even worse. The only proviso is that if Tampa Bay is the 9-7 team, we also need Minnesota to be 9-7.

Why does it matter that teams get to 9-7? Because the number one tiebreaker (besides head-to-head) in wild card selection is conference record. And we will have the best conference record of any of these teams. As long as we aren't tied alone with Tampa Bay, we will win any tiebreaker.

To sum up...

ROOT FOR: Giants (against the Cowboys), Carolina (against ATL and TB), New Orleans (against everyone), Kansas City (against 'Boys and G-Men), Redskins (obviously), and Minnesota (to go 9-7).

ROOT AGAINST: Cowboys (also obviously), Tampa Bay, Atlanta.

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yeah i agree, i posted this yesterday, i'll post it here too




if we win only 9 games and one of those being the cowboys we will still have a chance to make the playoffs, in other words if we only lose the giants. ONLY IF

1. Cowboys lose giants, us and carolina(very possible, also KC is in there)--they go 9-7 and we have tie breaker!!!!

2. Falcons 3 losses to @Bears @Tampa @Carolina or Carolina---they go 9-7 and we have a better conference record!!!!

3. Vikings lose 2 to @Lions, Rams, @Ravens, Steelers or Bears---they go 9-7 we win tie breaker

4. Eagles lose to us-- we win tie breaker at 9-7

5. Rams lose to us-- we win tie breaker at 9-7


If all those things happen we make playoffs at 9-7 if we only lose to the Giants. If we lose to the boyz boyz can win out exept for the skins game and giants have to lose to philly and washington and we win tiebreaker or they could lose to KC or @ Oakland

EXTREMELY UNPROBABLE, i say if we only lose to the gints we have a 20% shot
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With the way they've been playing, I don't see them winning more than 2 games for the rest of the way -- Arizona and Philly. And their likely to drop one of those.

There's no other way to put it. This team is in freefall.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven]With the way they've been playing, I don't see them winning more than 2 games for the rest of the way -- Arizona and Philly. And their likely to drop one of those.

There's no other way to put it. This team is in freefall.[/QUOTE]

I just don't understand why you keep saying that. The Chargers are one of the best teams in football. It's not embarrassing to lose to them, regardless of circumstance. The Rams are NOT GOOD, why would we lose to them? They had to make a miracle comeback against the Texans, who are generally regarded as one of the worst teams ever. An absolute miracle. They were outplayed by the odds-on favorites to win the Reggie Bush sweepstakes. Sorry, but we won't lose that one.

Then we will beat the Cards, I agree. And we'll beat the Eagles, who yielded 100+ yards to [b]Samkon Gado[/b] and barely snuck one out against the decimated Packers in their own house.

That means, to go 9-7, we only have to win one of the Giants/Cowboys games at FedEx. I'm not saying we will or we won't, but there's certainly a chance we do that.

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lets take care of business and let the chips fall(or crumble)where they may

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[QUOTE=e16bball]We can get in at 9-7. Why, you might ask? Our conference record, I would answer.

If we win 4 out of the next 5 to go 9-7. our NFC record will be 9-3, thanks to losing all of our games to the AFC West.

Obviously it would be preferable to win out, but 9-7 can do it. Here's what needs to happen:

One of Dallas or the G-Men must go 2-3 the rest of the way, to end up at 9-7. Both of these COULD happen, as long as we beat the team who LOSES their matchup next week. Assume that the Cowboys lose, since it's at the Meadowlands. We then must beat the Cowboys at FedEx. Then, they would have to lose one more game of their remaining 3. Those games are vs. Kansas City, @Carolina, and vs. St. Louis. That, I believe, will happen. If we go 4-1 down the stretch and end up tying the Cowboys in this manner, we are the 2nd place team in the NFC East.

But what about the NFC South, you say? Here's what needs to go down. One of Carolina, Atlanta, and Tampa Bay must finish at 9-7. Carolina already has 8 wins, so I really doubt they end up 1-4 over the last 5. Thus, we'll have to concentrate on the Falcons and Bucs, both of whom would have to 2-3 or worse.

Here is the Falcons' schedule: @Carolina, vs. New Orleans, @Chicago, @Tampa Bay, vs. Carolina.

Here is the Bucs' schedule: @New Orleans, @Carolina, @New England, vs. Atlanta, New Orleans.

Either of those teams, in all honesty, could end up 9-7, or even worse. The only proviso is that if Tampa Bay is the 9-7 team, we also need Minnesota to be 9-7.

Why does it matter that teams get to 9-7? Because the number one tiebreaker (besides head-to-head) in wild card selection is conference record. And we will have the best conference record of any of these teams. As long as we aren't tied alone with Tampa Bay, we will win any tiebreaker.

To sum up...

ROOT FOR: Giants (against the Cowboys), Carolina (against ATL and TB), New Orleans (against everyone), Kansas City (against 'Boys and G-Men), Redskins (obviously), and Minnesota (to go 9-7).

ROOT AGAINST: Cowboys (also obviously), Tampa Bay, Atlanta.[/QUOTE]

These are good points. I was going over the playoff picture myself yesterday and pretty much came up with the same situations you listed. I am a little confused though about some of the things you said, like why we need Minnesota to get to 9-7 if Tampa ends up at 9-7. To try and clear things up, if we end up at 9-7, Tampa would have to be 8-8 since they beat us and therefore hold the tiebreaker. Since this is unlikely, they would get one of the wild card spots over us (assuming the panthers win the South). But even then, we can still get the final spot if the Falcons and either the giants or cowboys finish at 9-7, which, as you said, is not out of the question. Minnesota can finish 9-7 too and we would go over them but this is not necessary even if the Bucs go 9-7.

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I love all the crazy scenarios this time of year, but I think our chances are paper thin at this point.

Unless this team turns on a dime, we'll be on the outside looking in once again.

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for this to even get close to happening we can only afford to lose to the cardinals and the giants, we must win cowboys, eagles, and rams. if we lose one of those three our chances aren't over but a low chance made even lower

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Dude, we'll beat the frickin Giants. Don't be too quick to write that one off as a gimmie. We'll definitely kick their ass!

(of course, they'll probably come back in the 4th quarter and beat us....)

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Im with you e16!!!!!!! TIRED of lack of support here.:spank: Although i believe much better shot at winning division. Been said here many times but Cowgirls win vs Giants and drop only 1 more...we actually control our own destiny. Chargers have it all on both sides of the ball, we controlled them and had chance to win with Pic in last minutes......(wont go into that 1 though) :) .

obvioulsy our biggest game is the "Next game" from here on in. But im very confident we win next 2. (and im 50 yrd line row 8 behind skins bench vs Cards) :coach: ill be helpin however i can!!!!. Then Dallas G-strings AT HOME...come on people this isnt unrealistic!!!!! I hate how this site gives up, pouts about not watchin another game, puts down great efforts and coaching. But we all gotta vent somehow, so most of it early in the week a dont believe people really mean. GOOOO EEFFFFIIINNNNN REDSKINS!!!!!! Right now, next week, and even if we arent in playoffs anymore!!!!!! I LOVE EM.

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This is the freakin' NFL. Any given Sunday. This team can go 5-11 the rest of the way, or it can end up 10-6. There are no teams left that will over power the Redskins - including the Giants. That game was a fluke. Mark my words.

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[QUOTE=skinsguy]This is the freakin' NFL. Any given Sunday. This team can go 5-11 the rest of the way, or it can end up 10-6. There are no teams left that will over power the Redskins - including the Giants. That game was a fluke. Mark my words.[/QUOTE]
Yes!!! we have a little Christmas Eve present for them, and it comes in a can!!
CANT WAIT

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HELLO I'm new to this site and I found your playoff senario very interesting....Wait I should introduce myself My name is Duane..been a skins fan since I was in first grade...I'm 33 now and no I'm no longer in first grade...lol....Anyway you just proved that we do have a snowball's chance in you know where of making it into the playoffs. I live in LA and traveled to DC to see them smack around the 49ers and I'll be in AZ to see them smack around Warner and the Cards (I hope) I was even planning to get the WE WANT DALLAS chant started but things look bleak...BUT I have another playoff possibility...that may be a bit easier...here goes
FIRST - WE NEED TO RUN THE TABLE AND HIT 10 - 6
SECOND - The Giants need to Blow 3 games (including against us in DC)
THIRD - The Cowboys need to Blow 2 games (including against us in DC)
That would give the Cowboys a record of 10 - 6 (we would have the season sweep and the tie breaker) The Giants would then go 9-7 (that gives us a game on them, and we could forget that nasty 36-0 thing) and by that scenario we take the division, and move into the playoffs as a division winner and we don't have to worry about the wildcard stuff that is much harder to come by with teams like the Vikings still in after a 4 game winning streak....That the deal I'm hoping for. HAIL REDSKINS!!!!!!!!!

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[QUOTE=e16bball]I just don't understand why you keep saying that. The Chargers are one of the best teams in football. It's not embarrassing to lose to them, regardless of circumstance. The Rams are NOT GOOD, why would we lose to them? They had to make a miracle comeback against the Texans, who are generally regarded as one of the worst teams ever. An absolute miracle. They were outplayed by the odds-on favorites to win the Reggie Bush sweepstakes. Sorry, but we won't lose that one.

Then we will beat the Cards, I agree. And we'll beat the Eagles, who yielded 100+ yards to [b]Samkon Gado[/b] and barely snuck one out against the decimated Packers in their own house.

That means, to go 9-7, we only have to win one of the Giants/Cowboys games at FedEx. I'm not saying we will or we won't, but there's certainly a chance we do that.[/QUOTE]

Everyone said Oakland wasn't good....and look what happened....in [i]our house[/i] as well....

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[QUOTE=Redskins88]Everyone said Oakland wasn't good....and look what happened....in [i]our house[/i] as well....[/QUOTE]

So now everyone is saying the Redskins aren't good and will lose the rest of their games. Your own argument that they can't win proves they can win... Let's see what they do on the field...

:woot:

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[QUOTE=dlwredskins]HELLO I'm new to this site and I found your playoff senario very interesting....Wait I should introduce myself My name is Duane..been a skins fan since I was in first grade...I'm 33 now and no I'm no longer in first grade...lol....Anyway you just proved that we do have a snowball's chance in you know where of making it into the playoffs. I live in LA and traveled to DC to see them smack around the 49ers and I'll be in AZ to see them smack around Warner and the Cards (I hope) I was even planning to get the WE WANT DALLAS chant started but things look bleak...BUT I have another playoff possibility...that may be a bit easier...here goes
FIRST - WE NEED TO RUN THE TABLE AND HIT 10 - 6
SECOND - The Giants need to Blow 3 games (including against us in DC)
THIRD - The Cowboys need to Blow 2 games (including against us in DC)
That would give the Cowboys a record of 10 - 6 (we would have the season sweep and the tie breaker) The Giants would then go 9-7 (that gives us a game on them, and we could forget that nasty 36-0 thing) and by that scenario we take the division, and move into the playoffs as a division winner and we don't have to worry about the wildcard stuff that is much harder to come by with teams like the Vikings still in after a 4 game winning streak....That the deal I'm hoping for. HAIL REDSKINS!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
We dont even need Giants to blow 3 if we win out, just lose to dallas and us then we have better div record. Oh yeah welcome...ill be in Tempe as well, vs Cardinals, behind skins bench....Ill chant with you!!!:dallas:

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[QUOTE=dlwredskins]HELLO I'm new to this site and I found your playoff senario very interesting....Wait I should introduce myself My name is Duane..been a skins fan since I was in first grade...I'm 33 now and no I'm no longer in first grade...[/QUOTE]

Congrats on making it to second grade!!!! Seriously though, welcome to the board. Good to have you here.

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if we win out we should be able to win the division, and only need the giants and cowboys to lose one more game besides to us

:spank: :spank: :spank:

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[QUOTE=bjschmonsees]So now everyone is saying the Redskins aren't good and will lose the rest of their games. Your own argument that they can't win proves they can win... Let's see what they do on the field...

:woot:[/QUOTE]

I hope they can....but it's hard to believe in a team that keeps losing week after week.....

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[QUOTE=44deisel44]We dont even need Giants to blow 3 if we win out, just lose to dallas and us then we have better div record. Oh yeah welcome...ill be in Tempe as well, vs Cardinals, behind skins bench....Ill chant with you!!!:dallas:[/QUOTE]
I will be sitting in the endzone with a group of at least 50 from XtremeRedskins.com...so if we get the chant started join in!!!! I even have a shirt I bought at Fed Ex Field that says on the front "The Rivalry Returns" and on the back the Redskins logo and under that "WE WANT DALLAS" This will be the third time I've gone to see the skin in Arizona...I'm 0-2 right now we lost in 98 with Trent Green and again in 2000 with Brad Johnson...We'll change that wil Brunell...hey e-mail me maybe I can say hello before I head to my seats [email]dlwredskins@yahoo.com[/email].
BTW I will be with a Buddy oddly enough he's a Charger Fan....but he's been instructed no cheering for anyone except the Redskins at the game. Thanks for the welcome!!!! HAIL REDSKINS!!!

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our scheduel down the stretch is pretty favorable, with our hardest games (giants, cowboys) coming at home :):):):):):):):):):):):):):) i still have faith until we are officially eliminated! :):):):):):):):)

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Congrats on making it to second grade!!!! Seriously though, welcome to the board. Good to have you here.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for your congrats on me making it to the second grade...lol thanks for the Welcome, and I see you have the Brunell Bandwagon name...well love Brunell wanted him from the Jags for a long time...The Jags were my DISTANT second team because of him.

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I would be thrilled to go 9-7 even if they don't make the playoffs.

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[QUOTE=Big C]our scheduel down the stretch is pretty favorable, with our hardest games (giants, cowboys) coming at home :):):):):):):):):):):):):):) i still have faith until we are officially eliminated! :):):):):):):):)[/QUOTE]
It's not over til it over is what I say...we all remember week two against Dallas we were DONE and then...the BOMBS started raining down!!!!!!!!!!so it's not over!!!!We'll take down the Cowboys, the Giants game was a fluke they will be slaughtered, and Philly, AZ and STL should be easy.... BTW I only said the Giants should be a game behind us because it would be a split, but that 36 -0 fluke can come back to haunt us before we get to the division games tiebreaker...at any rate it's not over, but I'm a litte worried. But I'm not giving up on the boys and we are suppose to be the best fans in the largest stadium in the league so I personally feel no one should be writing us off if you are a skins fan, no matter how bad it looks.

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I think it would, but lets just try to get to the next game first

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[QUOTE=dlwredskins]HELLO I'm new to this site and I found your playoff senario very interesting....Wait I should introduce myself My name is Duane..been a skins fan since I was in first grade...I'm 33 now and no I'm no longer in first grade...lol....Anyway you just proved that we do have a snowball's chance in you know where of making it into the playoffs. I live in LA and traveled to DC to see them smack around the 49ers and I'll be in AZ to see them smack around Warner and the Cards (I hope) I was even planning to get the WE WANT DALLAS chant started but things look bleak...BUT I have another playoff possibility...that may be a bit easier...here goes
FIRST - WE NEED TO RUN THE TABLE AND HIT 10 - 6
SECOND - The Giants need to Blow 3 games (including against us in DC)
THIRD - The Cowboys need to Blow 2 games (including against us in DC)
That would give the Cowboys a record of 10 - 6 (we would have the season sweep and the tie breaker) The Giants would then go 9-7 (that gives us a game on them, and we could forget that nasty 36-0 thing) and by that scenario we take the division, and move into the playoffs as a division winner and we don't have to worry about the wildcard stuff that is much harder to come by with teams like the Vikings still in after a 4 game winning streak....That the deal I'm hoping for. HAIL REDSKINS!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]

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I really think that we need to go 10-6 to win this. I think either the Giants or Cowboys will win the division, and most likely one of these teams will end up at either 10-6 or 9-7. However, there are a lot of other tough teams in the NFC that I believe can get up to a 10-6 record for the wild cards (don't know the exact wild card standings right now). The good thing is that if we do finish up at 10-6 we would almost certainly win the tiebreaker with our outstanding NFC record. With 9-7 we would most likely just end up with a crappy draft pick next year, especially considering we don't have a 1st rounder.

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Beat the Giants, the Cowboys, and the Eagles and we're in. To think otherwise is just crazy.!


It's that simple folks.

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the fact of the matter is that as easily as we could be 2-9,we could also be 9-2.one play in any of our losses,and they turn into wins.i dont see running the table out of the question.as the old saying goes,winning cures everything.lets start on sunday

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Simple question....I know this is the 9-7 thread

But can 10-6 get us in??

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven]With the way they've been playing, I don't see them winning more than 2 games for the rest of the way -- Arizona and Philly. And their likely to drop one of those.

There's no other way to put it. This team is in freefall.[/QUOTE]


AHHH, a fan that looks at the TRUE picture. We cant stop the pass, both St louis and Arizona have decent passing attacks. Arizona get Boldin back, OUCH

Giants and Cowboys are playing really good football. We could beat Dallas, but I dont see us beating the Giants and their offense, plus the defense is playing well. Maybe we beat Philly, but they didn't look bad the last game w/ Mcmann at QB. More plays for Westbrook, which he usually kills us.
Maybe two more wins, which let see, that puts us at 7-9 ANOTHER LOSING SEASON, As it is usually said around this year every year, we'll be better next year!! I will believe it when I see it

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[QUOTE=e16bball]I just don't understand why you keep saying that. The Chargers are one of the best teams in football. It's not embarrassing to lose to them, regardless of circumstance. The Rams are NOT GOOD, why would we lose to them? They had to make a miracle comeback against the Texans, who are generally regarded as one of the worst teams ever. An absolute miracle. They were outplayed by the odds-on favorites to win the Reggie Bush sweepstakes. Sorry, but we won't lose that one.

Then we will beat the Cards, I agree. And we'll beat the Eagles, who yielded 100+ yards to [b]Samkon Gado[/b] and barely snuck one out against the decimated Packers in their own house.

That means, to go 9-7, we only have to win one of the Giants/Cowboys games at FedEx. I'm not saying we will or we won't, but there's certainly a chance we do that.[/QUOTE]

We couldn't beat the sorry Raiders, at HOME!! what makes you think we can beat anybody on the road? the Rams will throw the ball all over the field against us. they have multiple weapons, bruce, holt, jackson, arizona has Fitzgerald, Boldin, Warner, who has been putting up some numbers. If we win one of those I would be suprised.

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Whether 9-7 or 10-6 the skins have to win the division to get in because I just dont see them having a good enought record to get a wild card.

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56fanatic you have got to be kidding me,the giants are playing good football?i guess if you call 16 penalties(11 false starts)and 3 missed field goals playing good,than you must think the skins are playing great!the only thing that saves the giants is tiki,having an all pro season

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[QUOTE=irish]Whether 9-7 or 10-6 the skins have to win the division to get in because I just dont see them having a good enought record to get a wild card.[/QUOTE]

I agree. I also think winning the division is our best chance to make it in.

What we need to do is sweep our last 3 games. This will gain a game back on Dallas and the Giants and will give us the best division record and thus all tiebreakers in the division. Then we just have to gain one more game on Dallas and the Giants and we'll be in.

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[QUOTE=dmek25]56fanatic you have got to be kidding me,the giants are playing good football?i guess if you call 16 penalties(11 false starts)and 3 missed field goals playing good,than [b]you must think the skins are playing great![/b]the only thing that saves the giants is tiki,having an all pro season[/QUOTE]

From this statement, it sounds as though you don't think the Giants are playing very good football, because they played last week, like Washington has been playing the past several weeks. And yet, Washington(5-6) is supposedly better than New York(7-4)?

The way Washington has been playing is they way they're going to play for the rest of the season. The games will be close, but the magic was used up at the beginning of the season, so they'll be lucky to win two of the last five. The unrelenting optimism is admirable, but people have to be realistic. You can't will the Redskins into the playoffs.

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earlier it was posted that we should root fot he giants

but wouldnt it be better for us if dallas won?

giants have a far easier scheduel than the cowboys, and could run the table after the cowboys game

cowboys still have kc and carolina to play, while the giants play kc and oakland

my point is, the cowboys are more likely to lose 2 out of 5 games than the giants are

if we are to make the playoffs, i think we have to run the table and win the division

so, wouldnt it be better if the cowboys beat the giants?

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VERY much so....Better cowgirls but if G-strings win then they must drop 1 to K.C. at home or road loss to Philly or Oak. I think we are sitting kinda pretty because of schedule! But there is that thing about winning out..(cough cough).

If we just pull out next two....I honestly think we can get fired up for last three div games......:duel: 2 in a row would light a fire under our confidence for sure!!!!!

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9-7 will defenetly not get you in for your team to get in they need to win the division and 9-7 means that both the giants and cowboys must lose 3 and given the fact that they face each other this week that means that 1 of the teams must win 1 out of 4 wich isn't hard looking that NY will face PHI and Oak that are surely thinking in 2006 and dallas faces STL wich also is thinking 2006 and Oak and STL are in the last week wich if they have 0 chances of getting in wich they allready almost have and looking as they aren't division foes they surelly won't play full speed.

Been realistic 10 -6 is your only real shot to make it and hoping each team loses 2 games