So, how are we doing compared to last year? Here is what the numbers say...
 

I decided to review the progress our offense has made up to this point as compared to last year. I thought that you guys may be interested to know that we have now scored more points than we did all of last year. Even better, last year at this point we had allowed 25 more points than we had scored. This year we have scored 8 more than we have allowed.

Our defense has given up 32 more points than it had at this time last year, but our offense has scored 72 points more than it had at this point. Guys, I think that this is significant progress by our coaching staff.

Further, in the last 6 games, when the Skins said they started impelmenting the changes to the offense, we averaged 18.17 points per game. This year we are averaging 20.08 points per game.

At this point last year we were 4 and 8. This year 6 and 6.

I think we are making good progress and I expect us to really be a classic Gibbs team come 2007... not to mention we still have something to work for here in 2006!


2005 2006
US THEM US THEM
Total Year 240 265 241 233
At this point of the year 169 201 241 233

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Thanks for that long list of numbers. Great stats. :iamwithst (j/k)

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Yeah, thanks for the informative breakdown. The Skins, under Gibbs, are moving in the right direction.

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[QUOTE=Warpath]Thanks for that long list of numbers. Great stats. :iamwithst (j/k)[/QUOTE]

HaHa... Yeah, I had a pretty cool spreadsheet, but I wasn't sure how to link it in. It all made sense when I wrote it. In summary: we are better and the scores prove it.:)

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[QUOTE=GoSkins!]I decided to review the progress our offense has made up to this point as compared to last year. I thought that you guys may be interested to know that we have now scored more points than we did all of last year. Even better, last year at this point we had allowed 25 more points than we had scored. This year we have scored 8 more than we have allowed.

Our defense has given up 32 more points than it had at this time last year, but our offense has scored 72 points more than it had at this point. Guys, I think that this is significant progress by our coaching staff.

Further, in the last 6 games, when the Skins said they started impelmenting the changes to the offense, we averaged 18.17 points per game. This year we are averaging 20.08 points per game.

At this point last year we were 4 and 8. This year 6 and 6.

I think we are making good progress and I expect us to really be a classic Gibbs team come 2007... not to mention we still have something to work for here in 2006!
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Hey no fair, you're using facts to back up what you are saying.

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Great post Go Skins.
I usually do not like to look at stats to determine how well a team is playing, but in this case I like it.
Sometimes an above average team might have a tough schedule, like the Redskins, and lose several close games and their stats might not be great.
Then another team that has an easier schedule and their stats are inflated. So stats can be misleading.
I can look at a game a know if a team is playing well, despite the score and stats. The Redskins are MUUUUCH improved from the Spurrier embarrasment era.

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To supplement the above stats:

OFFENSE
Yards Per Play: 4.3 (2004) to 5.1 (2005)
Yards Per Game: 274 (2004) to 338 (2005)
First Downs Per Game: 16.8 (2004) to 19.2 (2005)
3rd down conversion %: 31.7 (2004) to 42.3 (2005)
Passing Yards Per Game: 164.5 (2004) to 205.8 (2005)
Rushing Yards Per Game: 110.3 (2004) to 133 (2005)
Points Per Game: 15.0 (2004) to 20.1 (2005)
Passing Offense Rank: 29th (2004) to 18th (2005)
Rushing Offense Rank: 21st (2004) to 6th (2005)
Scoring Offense Rank: 31st (2004) to 16th (2005)
[I]Total Offensive Ranking: 30th (2004) to 12th (2005)[/I]

DEFENSE
Yards Per Play: 4.4 (2004) to 4.9 (2005)
Yards Per Game: 267.6 (2004) to 298.5 (2005)
First Downs Per Game: 15.7 (2004) to 16 (2005)
3rd down conversion %: 31 (2004) to 37.1 (2005)
Passing Yards Per Game: 186.1 (2004) to 188.5 (2005)
Rushing Yards Per Game: 81.5 (2004) to 110 (2005)
Points Per Game: (2004) 16.6 to 19.4 (2005)
Passing Defense Rank: 7th (2004) to 11th (2005)
Rushing DefenseRank: 2nd (2004) to 15th (2005)
Scoring Defense Rank: 5th (2004) to 13th (2005)
[I]Total Defensive Ranking: 3rd (2004) to 9th (2005)[/I]

In a tribute to JoeRedskin, the bottom line is we have as many wins as we did last year, but we have 4 games left to be played.

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6-6 isn't progress...if we cut down on mistakes and turnovers then I would be inclined to agree with you.

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[QUOTE=saden1]6-6 isn't progress...if we cut down on mistakes and turnovers then I would be inclined to agree with you.[/QUOTE]

6-6 against a harder schedule isn't progress from 6-10? I'd have to disagree with you there.

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[QUOTE=saden1]6-6 isn't progress...if we cut down on mistakes and turnovers then I would be inclined to agree with you.[/QUOTE]

We went from 4-8 to 6-6. Isn't that the very definition of progress for that stat?

As far as progress, generally, our offense has gotten better in every category, while our defense remains in the top 10. That's progress.

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[QUOTE=saden1]6-6 isn't progress...if we cut down on mistakes and turnovers then I would be inclined to agree with you.[/QUOTE]


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Re: So, how are we doing compared to last year? Here is what the numbers say...
 

If we end up 8-8 or 9-7, that is most definitely a HUGE improvement over last year especially once you consider the ridiculous schedule we've played.

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Anyone trying to argue that we aren't a better now than at this point last year is delusional. Every stat including the one that some people (with good reason) point out as the only one that matters, wins and losses, has improved. Were are 2 wins/17% "better". And against a more difficult schedule. Of the secondary stats(ie: offensive and defensive stats) we have improved in every notable offensive category while weakening a bit in almost as many defensive categories. Injuries have taken a beating on the defense plus the loss of Pierce and Smoot has adjusted our depth a bit. I'd say overall though it is clear our offense has gotten better more than our defense has gotten worse. We're better overall plain and simple. Now hopefully we continue to improve and turn this improvement into something that matters like 4 more wins.

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[QUOTE=FRPLG]Anyone trying to argue that we aren't a better now than at this point last year is delusional. Every stat including the one that some people (with good reason) point out as the only one that matters, wins and losses, has improved. Were are 2 wins/17% "better". And against a more difficult schedule. Of the secondary stats(ie: offensive and defensive stats) we have improved in every notable offensive category while weakening a bit in almost as many defensive categories. Injuries have taken a beating on the defense plus the loss of Pierce and Smoot has adjusted our depth a bit. I'd say overall though it is clear our offense has gotten better more than our defense has gotten worse. We're better overall plain and simple. Now hopefully we continue to improve and turn this improvement into something that matters like 4 more wins.[/QUOTE]I think that we miss Pierce alot more on D than we thought we would. He was the leader of our D and spent long hours in the film room which has hurt our D. I think Williams will realize that it has hurt our D and do a better job to remedy this problem. I was one who thought he would strugle in the Giants system and that Williams would have no problem replacing him but I was wrong.

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[QUOTE=firstdown]I think that we miss Pierce alot more on D than we thought we would. He was the leader of our D and spent long hours in the film room which has hurt our D. I think Williams will realize that it has hurt our D and do a better job to remedy this problem. I was one who thought he would strugle in the Giants system and that Williams would have no problem replacing him but I was wrong.[/QUOTE]

Ahhhh, the beauty of free agency!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think Pierce [b]is[/b] missed. However, I think Williams, and the boys knew EXACTLY how much, and what problems it would cause.
They weighed the variables, and issues and collectively ELECTED to let him go. Everything that goes on within the organization, right or wrong is planned, practiced, discussed, cussed, hashed, rehashed, etc. It ain't no coin toss

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[QUOTE=saden1]6-6 isn't progress...if we cut down on mistakes and turnovers then I would be inclined to agree with you.[/QUOTE]

We obviously have not been watching the same team for this to be the case. Even without any of the supporting statistics, the bottom line is that this team has improved by leaps & bounds. While it may not be a complete 180, I will certainly take it over the dismal 2004 performance any day.

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]Hey no fair, you're using facts to back up what you are saying.[/QUOTE]

Haha yeah...we don't take kindly to no fact-users on this here board!

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[QUOTE=amorentz]Haha yeah...we don't take kindly to no fact-users on this here board![/QUOTE]

Just tell me how the Redskins make you feel........

(Please, no replys from Sally Jenkins...)

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From a Stats perspective, I think we will end up better defensively by the end of the year. I don't see any of our remaining games being very high scoring, no matter wheither we win or lose. I hope Gibbs continues the "Rushing" attack we saw against the Rams. Especially against the Cardinals this week. That kind of a game plan really speeds up the game because it eats clock and reduces plays. If the result of the drives equal TDs then it becomes demoralizing for the other team. The skins had a couple of really time consuming drives against the Rams because they ran so much.

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Oh come on guys, we have won two close games we didn't last year. It's luck of the draw, but look at how many turnovers we had all of last year (27) and thus far this year (21) and the progress you see dissipates.

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[QUOTE=saden1]Oh come on guys, we have won two close games we didn't last year. It's luck of the draw, but look at how many turnovers we had all of last year (27) and thus far this year (21) and the progress you see dissipates.[/QUOTE]

You realize that means we are on pace for just 28 turnovers this year, right? That's not really a compelling argument.

I don't understand your point about winning two more games this year not meaning anything.

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it's definitely progress. unfortunately these thing take time don't they? it's not like we're even out of it yet!!! and if we barely miss the playoffs, we'll definitely be in next year.

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[QUOTE=saden1]Oh come on guys, we have won two close games we didn't last year. It's luck of the draw, but look at how many turnovers we had all of last year (27) and thus far this year (21) and the progress you see dissipates.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't aware progress was simply measured by the number of turnovers. I agree that turnovers and mistakes are still very much an area for further improvement, but I just don't see how that can justify saying no progress has been made from last year to this year.

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My point is this team is still making the same mistakes as last year and as such they haven't truly progressed. I guess we differ in that I would call 8-4 progress (achievable if it weren't for critical turnovers) where as 6-6 is just a romance comedy with some tragedy here and there.

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[QUOTE=saden1]My point is this team is still making the same mistakes as last year and as such they haven't truly progressed. I guess we differ in that I would call 8-4 progress (achievable if it weren't for critical turnovers) where as 6-6 is just a romance comedy with some tragedy here and there.[/QUOTE]
What a load! Are you honestly telling me that you think this team isn't any better than last year? Do you actually watch the games?

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[QUOTE=saden1]My point is this team is still making the same mistakes as last year and as such they haven't truly progressed. I guess we differ in that I would call 8-4 progress (achievable if it weren't for critical turnovers) where as 6-6 is just a romance comedy with some tragedy here and there.[/QUOTE]



Just my opinion, last year, we were lucky win what we did. This year, our opponents are lucky. Next year, they won't be! It's how you build a team

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[QUOTE=saden1]My point is this team is still making the same mistakes as last year and as such they haven't truly progressed. I guess we differ in that I would call 8-4 progress (achievable if it weren't for critical turnovers) where as 6-6 is just a romance comedy with some tragedy here and there.[/QUOTE]

6-6 is progress....8-4 is a complete turn around.

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They are moving the ball alright but would you call 2 more points per game better? Give me a break. This team isn't really that different from last year. Sure the ball gets moved quite a bit but when you turn it over it's all for null.

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Here is how our team is different: WE HAVE SANTANA MOSS. That is the difference, and it's a big one. Jon Jansen instead of Ray Brown I'd say is an upgrade as well.

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[QUOTE=saden1]They are moving the ball alright but would you call 2 more points per game better? Give me a break. This team isn't really that different from last year. Sure the ball gets moved quite a bit but when you turn it over it's all for null.[/QUOTE]

Its alot different!! The Off is better the D is worse. Were playing a harder schedule and were 6-6.... Look at the numbers from the earlier posts.

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[IMG]http://fs6.deviantart.com/i/2005/064/c/0/Beating_A_Dead_Horse_by_livius.gif[/IMG]

:bdh:

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anyone who thinks the skins arent making progress isnt looking at the big picture.our own mistakes have prevented us from being at least 8-5.with that being said,6-6 will have to do,but with our tough schedule,all the problems we have are correctable