(Merged Thread) Greg Williams Gone After 2005?
 

Perhaps lost in last weeks victory, was Greg Williams name coming up as the "leading" candidate for a couple potential head coach openings. The Rams, were specifically mentioned. After the game, on comcast, Kelly Johnson specifically asked GW about this. He replied, something along the lines of:
He'll be a head coach in the NFL again, but right now, he likes what he doing, where he's doing it at, and he likes working for Joe Gibbs.

I really gotta think if the right opening came up GW might jump on it.

As it stands now, potential openings are...
Rams, Texans, Lions, Raiders, Green Bay?, Titans?

I'd like to see GW stick it out w/ the skins for at least another year, and potentially take over for Gibbs whenever that may be, but for the purposes of discussion and conjecture...What team (s) do you think have an opportunity to lure him away from the skins?

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I hear the Chiefs have also been mentioned as a possibility. Which could make sense. They have the offense, but they need someone to shore up that defense. Sort of like what Marvin Lewis has done with Cincy

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I think Williams stick around for at least another year.

Money, aside it would be a good to see him stay here post-Gibbs II.

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I would like to think that Gregg Williams likes it here enough to stay and that he might be the hier apparent to Joe Gibbs, but I'm just not sure. I can't imagine a situation where you don't listen to head coaching offers.

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Like I said in the other thread, if someone offers GW the head coach job he's gone. It wont matter what the redskins pay or what's going on here in redskinland.

I dont know about GW as the heir to Gibbs. His record at Buff was not great (if it was he'd still be there as head coach). It seems he's best suited to be a D-coordinator.

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This is from GW's recent chat on [URL=http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117576]ExtremeSkins[/URL]



"....I do have to take a look at every opportunity that comes along for the betterment of my family, but I can tell you that being a Washington Redskin right now is the most important thing on our minds, because we want our kids to finish school here and enjoy having roots here in Virginia and the Washington DC area. It'll be easy---[B]I can say no and I will say no. I said no last year to opportunities to be a head coach again.[/B]"

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[QUOTE=redsk1]Perhaps lost in last weeks victory, was Greg Williams name coming up as the "leading" candidate for a couple potential head coach openings. The Rams, were specifically mentioned. After the game, on comcast, Kelly Johnson specifically asked GW about this. He replied, something along the lines of:
He'll be a head coach in the NFL again, but right now, he likes what he doing, where he's doing it at, and he likes working for Joe Gibbs.

I really gotta think if the right opening came up GW might jump on it.

As it stands now, potential openings are...
Rams, Texans, Lions, Raiders, Green Bay?, Titans?

I'd like to see GW stick it out w/ the skins for at least another year, and potentially take over for Gibbs whenever that may be, but for the purposes of discussion and conjecture...What team (s) do you think have an opportunity to lure him away from the skins?[/QUOTE]The Titans won't get rid of Fischer. The Lions have Millen, they are in disarray. He probably wouldn't go to he Raiders, as he wouldn't be able to bring anybody in to help the D for cap reasons. Green Bay? Maybe, but I think he'd rather work in the nation's capital. So that leaves the Rams. I think he'll stay.

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One advantage to Gregg Williams vs a guy like Marvin Lewis is that he has been a head coach before so I don't know if he'll want to go somewhere like Detroit. He's seen what happens when you go into a bad situation. I doubt he'll want to go down that road again.

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Funny, I once heard Steve Spurrier make a similiar comment about his kids in school and so forth.

Hopefully, GW can ward off the offers for a couple of more years and stick it out til Gibbs leaves.

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[QUOTE=12thMan]Funny, I once heard Steve Spurrier make a similiar comment about his kids in school and so forth.

Hopefully, GW can ward off the offers for a couple of more years and stick it out til Gibbs leaves.[/QUOTE]

FWIW, Spurrier left his kids in school up here (for a while at least).

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Yeah, I saw that too...my point is, these guys make whatever adjustments when the time draweth nigh.

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I imagine the real answer is the money. G.W. makes pretty good money as an assistant with the Skins, if he could make more money as a headcoach, he probably would, unless as some of you have mentioned it is a bad situation like the Lions. Some of the teams that are stinking it up right now have coaches in their first years, so they are not leaving aka San Fran and Miami, Cleveland. I hope he does not leave.

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Just my opinion, but I thought it odd that GW came here in the first place as head coach's don't normally assume the role of assistant. My conspiratorial red flags were immediately UP.
I figured GW was told if all went well, he would get the team when Joe "hit the silk"...........and
maybe GW thinks "maybe it wouldn't hurt to pick up a few tips from a three time Bowl winnner and HOF member".......and
He is already making head coach type money.
Dan will fix that, if it is a problem.
By the time Joe leaves, much of the really tough work is done! Doesn't get any better.
Washington has a certain allure of POWER. The seat of Government of the most powerful nation on earth is big stuff. I grew up in DC and have lived several places since. The air in DC is addictive. It's a prestigious thing to have the President "check up" on the National Capitols team with an occasional call to the Skins coach.
IMO-Greg Stays!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[QUOTE=Hog1]Just my opinion, but I thought it odd that GW came here in the first place as head coach's don't normally assume the role of assistant.[/QUOTE]

Actually it happens all the time.

Not all head coaches that are fired up end back as a head coach right away.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Actually it happens all the time.

Not all head coaches that are fired up end back as a head coach right away.[/QUOTE]

OH YEA! real nice. Knock the bottom of my entire post in one sentence

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]This is from GW's recent chat on [URL=http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117576]ExtremeSkins[/URL]



"....I do have to take a look at every opportunity that comes along for the betterment of my family, but I can tell you that being a Washington Redskin right now is the most important thing on our minds, because we want our kids to finish school here and enjoy having roots here in Virginia and the Washington DC area. It'll be easy---[B]I can say no and I will say no. I said no last year to opportunities to be a head coach again.[/B]"[/QUOTE]
Translation:
Someone will have to blow him out of the water in terms of money before he'll take a HC job becasue essentially he doesn't care as much about being a HC as he does about rooting his family. Does anyone think someone is going to offer more than Snyder will be willing to pay to keep him?
This is the guy that Gibbs basically tied himself too when he decided to come back. Unless he and Gibbs have a falling out Gibbs is gonna want to keep him around at almost any cost.
He's gotta also know that he is straight up in line for the HC job here when Gibbs hangs it up plus he is getting mad props on a daily basis around the league. He isn't in any hurry to get out of here. Thank god.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Actually it happens all the time.

Not all head coaches that are fired up end back as a head coach right away.[/QUOTE]
Or ever again for that matter.

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i for one do not want greg williams as head coach of the redskins.he is an excellent d coordinator,but that doesnt translate into sucess as the head coach(see norv)i think what williams accomplished in buffalo in his short time there should be sending up a warning flag to the skins

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[QUOTE=dmek25]i for one do not want greg williams as head coach of the redskins.he is an excellent d coordinator,but that doesnt translate into sucess as the head coach(see norv)i think what williams accomplished in buffalo in his short time there should be sending up a warning flag to the skins[/QUOTE]

I have mixed feelings about it. I mean he could be a Bill Belichick you know, and have great success the second time around. I wouldn't just annoint him the successor but I'd definitely put him on short list

One thing about Gibbs is his coaching tree hasn't had quite the same success as Walsh's or Parcells'. Though the advantage Williams has is that he has been there before

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[QUOTE=dmek25]i for one do not want greg williams as head coach of the redskins.he is an excellent d coordinator,but that doesnt translate into sucess as the head coach(see norv)i think what williams accomplished in buffalo in his short time there should be sending up a warning flag to the skins[/QUOTE]
True but people can improve on their second stint as head coach. Look at Bellichek for example. Since he's learning from one of the best coaches ever his chances for improvement are very good

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If you look at what williams had to work with in buffalo, and you look at the personell he brougth in, and then you add experience of working with Gibbs, and Bugel, and Breaux... I think he'll be okay. On top of that, he's got the D he built basically from the ground up, and a new offense thats suitable for a hall of fame coach... If I were in his position, I may stick around and try to take over if we start winning. After all, its no secret that we're the best opportunity to make long term money if he is a success.

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I don't see Gregg Williams going anywhere for all the reasons most of the people have said to emphasize, Gibbs has made it no secret that his time here will be limited, which Williams would be willing to wait. He loves the players, the staff he has on defense, the HC he works for, his family in the DC area, and he is making more money than some HC in the league or right at it, which program can he take over where a coach is going to be fired if the organization is not in shambles. He is having his say as well in helping develop this team for the future which only makes more evident that he will succeed Gibbs.

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id expect him to make a solid 3 yr run but who can honestly say? you never know when $ is at stake.

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Gregg Williams, nog Greg.

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[QUOTE=skindogger47]Gregg Williams, nog Greg.[/QUOTE]

nog? as in egg nog? love that stuff. have you tried southern comfort's vanilla spice? awesome!

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....or Starbucks' Egg Nog Latte isn't bad for you non-alc. drinkers. :)

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We all remember Belichick as coach of the Browns, and now as coach of the Patriots.

But anyone else remember that odd scenario where he spent three years as top assistant to Parcells with the Jets. Then when Parcells resigned he was like and now, as planned, I'm handing the reigns over to Belichick. And the next day Belichick was like you know what I changed my mind. I'd rather make my own mark somewhere else.

Anyone worry that might happen with GW?

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Not really worried whether that would happen w/GW to be honest. I would love for him to stay.

What would worry me more is if he took Blache, Lindsay and a few others. If he leaves and they stay, I think the defense can maintain a lot of it's core philosphy and schemes. I'm more worried that there would be an exodus of the assistants more than anything else.

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[QUOTE=12thMan]Not really worried whether that would happen w/GW to be honest. I would love for him to stay.

What would worry me more is if he took Blache, Lindsay and a few others. If he leaves and they stay, I think the defense can maintain a lot of it's core philosphy and schemes. I'm more worried that there would be an exodus of the assistants more than anything else.[/QUOTE]

Yea I just hope we don't loose Coy Gibbs. He's done a tremendous job keeping the coffee warm.

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[QUOTE=FirstandTen]Yea I just hope we don't loose Coy Gibbs. He's done a tremendous job keeping the coffee warm.[/QUOTE]

lol

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[QUOTE=dmek25]i for one do not want greg williams as head coach of the redskins.he is an excellent d coordinator,but that doesnt translate into sucess as the head coach(see norv)i think what williams accomplished in buffalo in his short time there should be sending up a warning flag to the skins[/QUOTE]

When Gregg Williams was a head coach for the Bills, he made a HUGE mistake by surrounding himself with assistant coaches with little or no NFL experience. If Gregg Williams takes over as a head coach of the Redskins, he won't make the same mistake.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]nog? as in egg nog? love that stuff. have you tried southern comfort's vanilla spice? awesome![/QUOTE]

Not egg nog - Gregg nog. It's different.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]We all remember Belichick as coach of the Browns, and now as coach of the Patriots.

But anyone else remember that odd scenario where he spent three years as top assistant to Parcells with the Jets. Then when Parcells resigned he was like and now, as planned, I'm handing the reigns over to Belichick. And the next day Belichick was like you know what I changed my mind. I'd rather make my own mark somewhere else.

Anyone worry that might happen with GW?[/QUOTE]

Not really. For one reason, GW has coached somewhere else before, and he might realize that it is probably an easier transition to get promoted up into a system, rather than to go somewhere else and have to assemble everything again. Of course, that doesn't mean that when Gibbs retires, his coaching staff will stay, but if so, I think it would be easier for GW. Then again, it wasn't easy for Richie Petitbone.

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There is nothing preventing Snyder from paying Greg Williams more money to stay with the Redskins than KC or St Louis would pay him for being head coach. I know these guys don't really need money, but he's still young so it's not like he would be passing up his last chance if he stayed.

Greg Williams
 

Do you guys think Greg Williams is going to leave after this year? A lot of people say he is, please tell me no!!

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Well lets figure it out, who will need a coach? Detroit? Buffalo? Saints? Maybe KC and St. Louis? who knows, I don't think so. I say he stays.


Remember, he was a crappy head coach ...

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I hoping he guts it out in DC until Gibbs hangs it up in a year or 2 and then takes over in DC. I also think that if someone throws a sh*t load of cash his way, he'll probably take it, I mean wouldn't you? Everyone has a price.

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There will be a few teams looking for a head coach, but remember that Gregg Williams is making $1.7 million a year here. That's more than a bunch of head coaches, which means he's priced himself out of a few jobs. He also knows how well the money would be here if he inherited the job in a few years.

I don't know if those thoughts will keep him here, but it can't hurt.

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he's already making more than most head coaches