Is Dan Synder doing a good job?
 

Ok so I was thinking last night, we all know that Dan is an impatient man, and he has made some rash moves in the past. But do you guys feel that he is improving, or the only reason he did not make any significant coaching moves last year was because we had Gibbs? I think (Or atleast I hope and feel) that Synder is realizing that teams need to stick with the same players and coaches for several years before becoming a strong playoff contender. Look at the recent playoff teams like the Pats and the Bucs before them. Both were really bad teams for quite some time, but the coaching staff and players gelled. I think throwing huge amounts of money will not change for Synder, and that is an advantage for the skins, so we can attract good players, but I think that Synder has realized that you need patience in the NFL. Your thoughts?

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Snyder's newly found hands off approach has had a big impact on team stability since Gibbs returned. I'd still like to see him hire a real GM, but his conduct as an owner is much improved since he handed Gibbs ultimate football authority for the team.

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hooskins:

I surely hope that you are correct in your assumption that Danny Boy has begun to learn the value of patience and sticking to a long range plan. Given that just about every psychologist/psychiatrist you will talk to says that the best predictor of future behavior is - - past behavior - - I'll have to reserve judgment.

I said this before it happened and so I'll repeat it here. The BEST thing that could happen - and has now happened - to the Redskins franchise in 2005 is that Danny Boy got control of Six Flags. That gives him and his new butt-boy, Mark Shapiro, something to do to keep them occupied and which has the potential to return as much - or more - money than the Skins' franchise. Hopefully, that will make Danny Boy assume the role that he should take with the Skins - and the one all of us ought to pray that he takes with the Skins - as the owner who shows up on Sunday to hold court in his box with a bunch of celebrities/politicos who are his guests and who are therefore beholding to him.

If he never shows up at a scouting meeting or in the draft room or fires up Redskins' One for a free agent buzz without Joe Gibbs filing the flight plan, we'll all be far better off.

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I would hope this to be the case. But considering no coach under Snyder has lasted more than 2 years, and now Joe Gibbs already finding (at least some) success in his 2nd year, I'm not convinced that lesson is necessarily going to be learned quite yet. That being said, in time I think he will learn. And with the money he is willing to spend on the team, combined with patience, we could be a dominant team for a long time when those two things finally gel together.

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hahaa I hope he gets the six flags and that happens. But he will start making drastic changes at the rides and firing people left and right.

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I always hate all of the attacks on DannyBoy - he has proven over and over that he is simply a huge fan and just wants to win. It's like if any of us inherited $500 Million dollars and bought the Skins from him. We'd be out there every offseason buying the best that money can buy. It's so easy to criticize him after the fact and seeing how certain players didn't turn out (deion, bruce smith, etc...) - but, would you have made the same decision at the time??

I think now he's a little more reserved in the spending, not because he doesn't want to, or can't, but because he's realizing that we'll be in cap hell in the next few years if he doesn't slow down.

I agree, though, that some continuity will be great for this team.

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[QUOTE=Ade Jimoh Fan Club]I always hate all of the attacks on DannyBoy - he has proven over and over that he is simply a huge fan and just wants to win. It's like if any of us inherited $500 Million dollars and bought the Skins from him. We'd be out there every offseason buying the best that money can buy. It's so easy to criticize him after the fact and seeing how certain players didn't turn out (deion, bruce smith, etc...) - but, would you have made the same decision at the time??

I think now he's a little more reserved in the spending, not because he doesn't want to, or can't, but because he's realizing that we'll be in cap hell in the next few years if he doesn't slow down.

I agree, though, that some continuity will be great for this team.[/QUOTE]

I think we are already in cap hell in the next couple of years. But I do not think he is a huge fan, because when he got the team, I remember that he knew little about football and did not follow it. Either way, the money he has, plus hopfully a new gained patience will help.

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I disagree somewhat with SC. The best owners are somewhere in the middle of hands off and hands on. Look at aguy like Bob Kraft up in NE. He certainly isn't hands off but he never gets involved like Snyder has in the past. Cooke was much the same. I think Dan simply needs to take himself out of the talent evaluation process and worry about managing his coaching staff and organization. Let those who know football run that part.

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[QUOTE=hooskins]I think we are already in cap hell in the next couple of years. But I do not think he is a huge fan, because when he got the team, I remember that he knew little about football and did not follow it. Either way, the money he has, plus hopfully a new gained patience will help.[/QUOTE]
Umm it is pretty common knowledge that Danny Boys boyhood goal was to own the redskins. He was a huge fan before he bought the team. Where did you get the idea he didn't even follow it?

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[QUOTE=hooskins]hahaa I hope he gets the six flags and that happens. But he will start making drastic changes at the rides and firing people left and right.[/QUOTE]

You think height requirement for rides will be decreased?

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too me it,s all up to synder on how far he wants his team to go.
rehiring joe gibbs is a start for him to go with the open wallet with synder.
but patience is a virtue when it comes to success and going about it the right way.

my 2 cents worth..

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[QUOTE=hooskins]I think we are already in cap hell in the next couple of years. But I do not think he is a huge fan, because when he got the team, I remember that he knew little about football and did not follow it. Either way, the money he has, plus hopfully a new gained patience will help.[/QUOTE]

You're nuts! Have you EVER even seen an interview w/ DannyBoy? It's obvious that he's a huge fan. I mean, is Mark Cuban a bad owner?? He's essentially the DannyBoy of the NBA - totally hands-on and always trying to get the best players on his team...

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[QUOTE=saden1]You think height requirement for rides will be decreased?[/QUOTE]
Badabing!!! Funny. Very funny. :laughing2

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I haven't been one to speak out on Snyder one way or another. Good or bad. I've just sort of observed a little. But I will opine, if you will allow me.

First, the days of keeping coaches and players together for several years is very, very difficult to do the era of salary caps and the free agent market. I think if it were possible to allow players years and years to gell, he would have done so.

As far as his past decisions and management of the team, I believe he simply failed to separate his emotional ties and sheer love for the team from his running the team as a business man. I think over the past couple of years he's sorta reigned in his emotions, if you will, and been a little more responsible with FA signings and so forth.
I think the arrival of Gibbs helped some in dealing with players and respecting bounderies of the coaching staff.

But make no mistake about it, this guy wants to

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saden1:

Don't know if the height requirement for the rides will be decreased but here's something I would not be shocked to learn:


Parking at Six Flags will now cost $25 and it will be illegal to park anywhere else and walk to the admission gate. The reason of course will be the safety of the children doing the walking...

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[QUOTE=FRPLG]Umm it is pretty common knowledge that Danny Boys boyhood goal was to own the redskins. He was a huge fan before he bought the team. Where did you get the idea he didn't even follow it?[/QUOTE]

Ok, well it was something I think I heard when we switched owners. Well I have a terrible memory, plus I am getting facts from the media, my bad.

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[QUOTE=hooskins]I think we are already in cap hell in the next couple of years. But I do not think he is a huge fan, because when he got the team, I remember that he knew little about football and did not follow it. Either way, the money he has, plus hopfully a new gained patience will help.[/QUOTE]
All the experts have said cap hell was inevitable for a while now. Hasn't happened.

Also, Snyder was and is a huge Skins fan. The quote about not following football, is flat out false.

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Yes I know now, that was a mistake on my part. Dan is a huge fan, my mistake sorry!

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Is Dan Snyder a good owner??



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snyders only mistake is making football decisions without getting input from football people.if there wasnt a cap,dan snyder would buy whatever the skins needed to succeed.he is one of us,a true fan who wants nothing but the best for the skins.i just hope he is paying attention now so when coach gibbs retires for good he knows what it takes in this league to win

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Snyder is living out his childhood dream and that's to own the Redskins, good luck finding a bigger fan of the team, with Snyder you will alway's have an owner who will do whatever he can to win, he may not alway's get it right, but he will always try.

As far as the job he is doing right now, well he did exactly what you have to do, he hired Gibbs and got out of his way, it's the only way this current situation will work, do I agree with all of Gibbs personel moves? NO! But it is how it has to be, if you have a problem with the GM duties on this team you have to look to Gibbs on that one, Danny has entrusted all aspects of player personel to Gibbs, he has final say on all. For DS to hire a GM to go over the top of Gibbs would cause real descention within the organazation.

I personally am very glad Snyder owns the team, he will continue to get better as an owner as time goes on.

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[QUOTE=dmek25]snyders only mistake is making football decisions without getting input from football people.if there wasnt a cap,dan snyder would buy whatever the skins needed to succeed.he is one of us,a true fan who wants nothing but the best for the skins.i just hope he is paying attention now so when coach gibbs retires for good he knows what it takes in this league to win[/QUOTE]So true, if you want to know how bad Snyder wants to win just go back and look of that clip of him jumping up and down like a kid who just got his first bike when moss scored his second TD in the first Dallas game.

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Did anyone catch the Joe Gibbs Show on Sportstalk 980 on Monday night? Gibbs was talking about how much Snyder does for the team and he said something like "Just last night he made a decision that I know is going to cost him a lot of money but it's good for the team, but I can't get into what it is right now"

Any thoughts as to what that might have been?

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[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon]hooskins:

Hopefully, that will make Danny Boy assume the role that he should take with the Skins - and the one all of us ought to pray that he takes with the Skins - as the owner who shows up on Sunday to hold court in his box with a bunch of celebrities/politicos who are his guests and who are therefore beholding to him.

If he never shows up at a scouting meeting or in the draft room or fires up Redskins' One for a free agent buzz without Joe Gibbs filing the flight plan, we'll all be far better off.[/QUOTE]

AMEN! Sign the checks, hand out the cigars, and cop a feel from the Redskins Cheerleaders every once in a while.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Did anyone catch the Joe Gibbs Show on Sportstalk 980 on Monday night? Gibbs was talking about how much Snyder does for the team and he said something like "Just last night he made a decision that I know is going to cost him a lot of money but it's good for the team, but I can't get into what it is right now"

Any thoughts as to what that might have been?[/QUOTE]

He is wrapping up a deal that will keep this coaching staff intact for many years and to turn the reigns over to Gregg Williams. Just a guess, but much of the impressions of how bad of an owner Daniel Snyder is has been portrayed in the media, the same asses who predicted us to finish last this year, the same to say the game had passed Gibbs by, same that said Moss is injury prone and we just got screwed with the Moss trade, do I need to go on. Snyder has become very patient and it began before Gibbs got here and only improved greater when Gibbs did get here. He went out and got players that the coaches wanted it is not his fault that Spurrier can recruit the hell out of College players and can throw it around on lesser college teams, but when you go to build a team with Trung Candidate as your # 1 back and can't game plan for anyone, it seems to make even the good talent you have on your team look like shit when you are just out coached on Sunday's. Snyder is one hell of a business man and though he was a fan, good business people suceed and surround themselves with good people which he has done with Gibbs and his staff.

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He's doing better just by letting football people make the on field decisions. I [u]assume[/u] that since he's kept himself out of the news lately, that's also a good thing. Now all he has to do is put his picture and profile in the[i] back[/i] of GAMEDAY, the game programs sold at FedEx. I go to the games to see Joe Gibbs and the players, yet Snyder is the first face you see when you open the book! :frusty:

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If there is some question about D being a HUGE fan. Did not everyone see him after the second Moss TD in the first Dallas game? I thought he was coming out of the owners box. It was cool! I can forgive him much, as with all the stuff he does, it is ALL aimed toward winning (at least in his mind). He also did the most intelligent thing imaginable toward that goal. He hired Joe! Think about how YOU felt when you heard the news???????????? Priceless

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[QUOTE=dmek25]snyders only mistake is making football decisions without getting input from football people.if there wasnt a cap,dan snyder would buy whatever the skins needed to succeed.he is one of us,a true fan who wants nothing but the best for the skins.i just hope he is paying attention now so when coach gibbs retires for good he knows what it takes in this league to win[/QUOTE]


Well, that only mistake happens to be the most important and biggest mistake that can be made when trying to build a winning team! and, Danny has tried to buy what he thought the skins needed is the past, and that has gotten us a remarkable best season record of 8-8. I do agree he has a passion for his team, as all of us do. However, he can not let is passion for the team cloud his decision regarding football related issues. He is a marketing genious, as we all know. But he was nothing more than a fan when he bought this team. He has as much qualification and pedigree to make the decisions as you and I do. He has not surrounded himself with people of great football knowledge and hopefully soon will. He is having the benefit of watching his boyhood idol in Gibbs standing on the sideline, thats why he is out of the picture right now. Hopefully this is a good learning experience for the next coach that comes in, to just sign the checks, and leave all the "football stuff" to the coach and hopefully the GM , and player scout.

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Since hiring Gibbs Snyder gets an A+, #1 for hiring a legend who knows a thing or two about building a winner and #2 for staying out of the way.

Prior to that, he definitely made his share of mistakes, but then again what first time owner wouldn't?

He takes a lot of heat and I think he almost likes it that way. If Gibbs 2.0 turns out to be a failure, people will undoubtedly say Snyder had something to do with it. If Gibbs 2.0 is a success, people will praise Gibbs' ability to win in spite of Snyder. It's a win/win for Gibbs.