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BeastsoftheNFCeast 05-07-2007 08:18 PM

Sean Taylors play
 
This might just be me, but I think that Sean Taylors play has regressed since he came to the skins. He seems to have gotten bigger, but slower. His coverage abilities have diminished, and personally I feel that his tackling has regressed. He can hit harder now, but he seems to be missing more tackles that he should be making. I feel that his number of tackles this past year has nothing to do with his tackling getting any better, but the rest of the D getting worse; more plays are going to the safety position because the initial tacklers have messed up, and the D has spent more time on the field due to more 1st downs due to poor D play, which gives Taylor more opportunities to tackle. This pains me to say because he is my favorite player, but I feel it to be true. I hope the addition of Landry somehow makes him the player he once was.

FRPLG 05-07-2007 08:28 PM

Re: Sean Taylors play
 
It is not just you. Google Tom Friends article on our secondary from last year. It is interesting.

FRPLG 05-07-2007 08:29 PM

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[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=2672668&type=story]ESPN.com - Reeling Redskins awash in troubles[/url]

dblanch66 05-07-2007 08:41 PM

Re: Sean Taylors play
 
Last year the whole defense pretty much sucked gorilla. I think ST tried to do too much to compensate for a lack of players around him. I'll wait until this season to begin before I start saying that "the beast" is regressing. I'm hoping to see an entire defensive resurgence!!

skinsfan_nn 05-07-2007 08:44 PM

Re: Sean Taylors play
 
Never heard of Tom Friend? Opinions are like you know what.

I don't believe he's regressed at all. I think he's a better player now than what we drafted, just ask Greg Williams. You surely can't base this off last year's performance, we were broke from one end to the other on defense.

SC Skins Fan 05-07-2007 09:12 PM

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Look at his play in the Pro Bowl. Those are the sorts of things he could do in a good defense with players around him. Reference also his play in 2005. I will say that Tom Friend's point about there being too many chefs in the kitchen is a good one. The 2006 Skins had separate meetings for safties and corners (separate coaches too) and I think we saw how they were not on the same page. Friend's discussion on the John Thompson show last fall was quite enlightening, you can check it out on the WTEM Archives or as a Podcast.

SantanaMan 05-07-2007 09:13 PM

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If it weren't for Sean Taylors play last year we are a 3-13 team or worse!
He single handedly won us the Dallas game with heads up thinking picking up that blocked FG and getting us the opportunity to kick the winner.
In the Carolina game he had a key 4th qtr stop near the end of the game and an INT in the endzone to save the game.
Without him we don't win them two games, and probably a lot more intances where if we had a lesser FS in there we would have been killed by a lot more in the games we lost.
He was a Pro Bowl first alternate, got his chance to go to the Pro Bowl and as Madden would say "BAM" he layed Brian Moorman the F out.
No way that Sean has regressed, in fact he is just gonna get better.

MTK 05-07-2007 09:19 PM

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Taylor's play was a reflection of the D as a whole last year.

GTripp0012 05-07-2007 09:25 PM

Re: Sean Taylors play
 
[quote=skinsfan_nn;308041]Never heard of Tom Friend? Opinions are like you know what.

I don't believe he's regressed at all. I think he's a better player now than what we drafted, just ask Greg Williams. You surely can't base this off last year's performance, we were broke from one end to the other on defense.[/quote]He's probably a better player now than ever before. I mean, I have no reason to think that he's "regressing" in the traditional sense.

Rather, what could be happening is that his flaws in the first two seasons he played were hidden by an overachieving front 7. As soon as that group broke down, ST's numerous flaws (which had exisited all along) became far more noticible. As he gains experience, he can work to correct these flaws, but for the time being, they are still a part of who he is. I doubt our front seven is going to give him too much more help this year. The Fletcher addition should help.

Conventional Solution: Fix the front 7
Redskins' Solution: Draft a guy at his position

GTripp0012 05-07-2007 09:27 PM

Re: Sean Taylors play
 
[quote=SantanaMan;308047]If it weren't for Sean Taylors play last year we are a 3-13 team or worse!
He single handedly won us the Dallas game with heads up thinking picking up that blocked FG and getting us the opportunity to kick the winner.
In the Carolina game he had a key 4th qtr stop near the end of the game and an INT in the endzone to save the game.
Without him we don't win them two games, and probably a lot more intances where if we had a lesser FS in there we would have been killed by a lot more in the games we lost.
He was a Pro Bowl first alternate, got his chance to go to the Pro Bowl and as Madden would say "BAM" he layed Brian Moorman the F out.
No way that Sean has regressed, in fact he is just gonna get better.[/quote]Might we have won games like Atlanta, or Minnesota, or Tennessee without his blown coverages though?

He certainly has a nose for the ball, and made a heads up play in the Dallas game. He's just too aggressive on the whole.

Pocket$ $traight 05-07-2007 09:32 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;308052]Might we have won games like Atlanta, or Minnesota, or Tennessee without his blown coverages though?

He certainly has a nose for the ball, and made a heads up play in the Dallas game. He's just too aggressive on the whole.[/quote]

What coverage did he blow against Minnesota? I remember Rogers looking like an idiot.

GMScud 05-07-2007 09:36 PM

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There is no way his athleticism has diminished. The average male hits his physical peak around 27 years old. Taylor just turned 24 last month. He led the team in tackles last year I believe, with 111. The D-line was a joke and LBs stunk, we dropped numerous INTs, and never had any consistency in the secondary, with a rotation of guys like Mike Rumph, Archuletta, Kenny Wright, Vernon Fox, Troy Vincent etc etc. Actually, there are I think 4 guys who played regularly in our secondary last year who are no longer on the team. There is a reason for that. I personally think ST is primed for a big season where he emerges as an elite defensive player in the league, not just a good safety in the NFC.

Slinginsammy06 05-07-2007 09:36 PM

Re: Sean Taylors play
 
He's gonna be hungry next year he's gonna be hitting people left and right and snatching balls out of the sky like he did in 04 and 05

skinsfan_nn 05-07-2007 09:38 PM

Re: Sean Taylors play
 
[quote=SantanaMan;308047]If it weren't for Sean Taylors play last year we are a 3-13 team or worse!
He single handedly won us the Dallas game with heads up thinking picking up that blocked FG and getting us the opportunity to kick the winner.
In the Carolina game he had a key 4th qtr stop near the end of the game and an INT in the endzone to save the game.
Without him we don't win them two games, and probably a lot more intances where if we had a lesser FS in there we would have been killed by a lot more in the games we lost.
He was a Pro Bowl first alternate, got his chance to go to the Pro Bowl and as Madden would say "BAM" he layed Brian Moorman the F out.
No way that Sean has regressed, in fact he is just gonna get better.[/quote]


I don't agree with that, if we didn't give three games away on a golden platter ....we could have been 8-8 and in the playoffs. Woulda, Shoulda, Didn't!

And that GREAT Dallas WIN I'm giving that game ball to Troy Vincent, if he didn't block the kick there would not have been a ball to run back in the first place.

Pocket$ $traight 05-07-2007 09:42 PM

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And that GREAT Dallas WIN I'm giving that game ball to Troy Vincent, if he didn't block the kick there would not have been a ball to run back in the first place.[/quote]

Vincent didn't run the ball into field goal range though...


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