Is Tom Brady the best QB ever?
 

[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22360396/]Opinion: Brady trying to end debate about best-ever QB - NFL - MSNBC.com[/url]

The article is a bit old, but it's also front page news on Yahoo.com, analysis love to go back and forth about whether he is the best/is going to be the best.

I don't really have a comment because I don't watch the Pats enough to make a decision. All I know is the guy is going for his 4th Superbowl ring and if keeps this up, he's going to run out of fingers.

Just wanted to let you guys share your opinion.

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I don't think he is but I can understand why some people think he is... This question would be different to everyone since there's really no wrong answer.... I think if he keeps playing how he's playing now he probably will be but I wouldn't consider him the best QB ever but that's just me.... Yet

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Let's just say by the end of his career he will be in the discussion.

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How many QB's have won 4 Superbowls? Brady is about to do that. Only Bradshaw comes to mind and the Steelers won with Defense primarily. Brady is putting up ridiculas stats and the Perfect Season is just icing on the cake. I hate the guy, but he will probably be the best ever by the time he is done. He may not own every passing record like Favre, but he will have won more and have more rings. That is how we all measure greatness.

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Joe Montana won four super bowls, theres an article on espn from last week that lists their opinion of the top qb performances in the super bowl. doug williams was third, all of montana made the top 25 including first. Ill try and find the link, someoen probably put it on the site.

So by Brady breaking Mannings record this year does that end the "Brandy for Manning" argument. Because it used to be Mannings stats vs Bradys rings, now they both have rings, but brady has two more (possibly three), and his stats this year were top notch.

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I hate the term "best ever". You could say one of the best, from Slinging Sammy Baugh, Johnny U, Terry Bradshaw, Snake Stabler, Dan Marino, Joe Montana, John Elway, Brett Favre, Tom Brady and I know I missed some. How can you say best ever? Some were fortunate to be surrounded by a great team/teams (Montana, Bradshaw) others due to the system, different eras, etc. I would equate them all the same.

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i never really thought about Brady being a top tier qback, until now. he has to be mentioned with the likes of Montana and Bradshaw, if they win it this year. for me, its all about the wins

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[quote=dmek25;412602]i never really thought about Brady being a top tier qback, until now. he has to be mentioned with the likes of Montana and Bradshaw, if they win it this year. for me, its all about the wins[/quote]


Was Terry Bradshaw a good QB or just a product or a great team? Im not aruging I just never saw him play.

I was in a job interview the other day and the guy wanted to hire me even though I wasnt an exact fit for the job, and he said "I take the Chuck Knoll approach, Terry Bradshaw wasnt predicted to be a good Qb but he was a great atlete that he made fit into a system. You draft talent not role players"

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[quote=scowan;412581]How many QB's have won 4 Superbowls? Brady is about to do that. Only Bradshaw comes to mind and the Steelers won with Defense primarily. Brady is putting up ridiculas stats and the Perfect Season is just icing on the cake. I hate the guy, but he will probably be the best ever by the time he is done. He may not own every passing record like Favre, but he will have won more and have more rings. That is how we all measure greatness.[/quote]

So you consider Terry Bradshaw one of the best ever because he won four SBs?

Even horrible/mediocre QBs can be on a SB winning team. Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Kurt Warner, Jeff Hostetler, Jim McMahon...

Rex Grossman was on a team that nearly won a SB.

Brady has played on some great teams, but he's nowhere near being up in the class of Unitas, Montana, Elway, Marino and the best ever. At least, yet...

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Yes...hands down he is. I give him most of the credit for the Pats. After having 1 winning season out of 5 in Cleveland, Belichek was 5-13 in the 1st 18 games of his coaching tenure with the Pats before Bledsoe got hurt and Brady entered the picture. They became a winning team imediately when Brady got on the field. 3 Super Bowls later and a 4th on the way it is clear that Tom Brady is the best QB of all time and by the time he retires there will be no discussion at all.

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First, I have to say I am biased. I hate Brady. I despise him. I hate the fact that when he throws an interception, he runs to the opposite side of the field to where the ball is, yet is the first to trash talk to a defender. You don't see Manning doing this. He goes for the tackle (he may fail miserably, but at least he tries). As far as Superbowl rings, I do not, and never have, seen these as an individual accomplishment. It is the compilation of an entire team and coaching staff that wins a Superbowl. The Patriots are an excellent team :vomit:. Belicheat is an excellent coach :vomit:. Brady is an excellent QB :vomit:. If the Patriots win the Superbowl, they will be the best team in history :vomit:. However, I believe that if Manning was a Patriot, those rings would be his; if Favre was a Patriot, those rings would be his; if Marino (in his prime) was a Patriot, those rings would be his. I could go on. I'm not trying to take anything away from Brady or his accomplishments and record setting year. I'm just not ready to crown him yet either.

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I definately think if he does win a 4th superbowl - at his young age - he will probably go down as the best ever to play - right now I would say he is one of the top QB's to play. this season is impressive, no doubt. but take a look at his previous rings, they are more impressive to me given the talent that was around him. This season's offense has so much talent from top to bottom you kind of expect the amazing season. The previous 3 bowls were on teams that had decent talent, but not overwhelming like this years.

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I'm afraid he's the best ever. Noone better than him ever at QB in NFL. That's the whole package of SuperBowls, Leadership, Winning, STATS, and toughness.

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I have always met with great difficulty in digesting that best ever concept. While most will agree Brady is a fine QB, best ever will be argued.

I've had the good fortune to witness the work of so many very good QB's through the years, long before Super Bowls, or before many of the stats that are kept today were kept. There have been so many different era's in the history of the game that it's difficult to sit on one point in time and say, this one, or that one is the greatest.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;412601]I hate the term "best ever". You could say one of the best, from Slinging Sammy Baugh, Johnny U, Terry Bradshaw, Snake Stabler, Dan Marino, Joe Montana, John Elway, Brett Favre, Tom Brady and I know I missed some. How can you say best ever? Some were fortunate to be surrounded by a great team/teams (Montana, Bradshaw) others due to the system, different eras, etc. I would equate them all the same.[/quote]

I agree. I don't think there's a consensus "best ever" and there shouldn't be. It's too tough to compare players across different eras.