In Jim Zorn we trust!....
 

[COLOR="DarkRed"][/COLOR]So I'm as happy as a pig in sh*t! A serious and down right TEAM win today! That being said....over our last few wins I have felt like Zorn has this "connection" with the team. Something that was missing before. And I think his personal attention to Campbell is really key.
My point is, we were all a little concerned when he was hired a HC. But maybe his youth is what makes him understand today's game better. (Hell of a call on 4th & 1 today) And allows him to have a closer connection to the entire team.

Sorry Joe G....I love ya. But maybe the game had passed you by.

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I don't think Zorn's success takes away from anything Gibbs did here. Would we be 4-1 with Gibbs as our coach? I don't think so. But Gibbs brought the personnel to get the job done, made sure our players had the character and drive, and established everything that Zorn has been able to execute so well.

All in all I'm glad we had both coaches!!

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Ill be honest after the Giants game I thought Coach Z was a bonehead. I retract that. And I trully believe hes a great coach. The team has really taken to this offense. And hes running the football.

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He utilized Cooley properly

big time difference

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It's simple, just like in Dallas; Gibbs should get most of the credit for creating foremost the character and assembly of this team and of course some great coaching by Zorn.

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No way Gibbs should get "most of the credit." Gibbs brought some good players into DC, no doubt about it. However, Gibbs wasn't winning with said players, he wasn't aggressive like Zorn is, and he wasn't winning games like Zorn is.

Gibbs did some good things, but if you break it down to coaching. Gibbs II doesn't compare to Zorn thus far.

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[quote=tryfuhl;486061]He utilized Cooley properly

big time difference[/quote]

Actually....its about time! He really wasn't thrown to much till today's game. And the results paid off. (4-5 catches and a TD) The guys got great hands! We need to keep getting the ball to him.

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[quote=Takeuon;486028][COLOR="DarkRed"][/COLOR]But maybe his youth is what makes him understand today's game better. (Hell of a call on 4th & 1 today) And allows him to have a closer connection to the entire team.

Sorry Joe G....I love ya. But maybe the game had passed you by.[/quote]

I dont know how old you are...but try making that call in the 4th quarter of a SUPER BOWL...Joe Gibbs did the same thing...and the call resulted in the biggest play in Redskins history.

Don't dis Joe Gibbs...it is his character that has basically run out victories in the last 2 divisional games.

Gibbs is AWESOME.

Zorn pass offense plus Gibbs Run offense + character is what you see....and ... WOW what a combo!!

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Isn't virtually every player here, except for the Rooks, people Joe gibbs brought in?

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[quote=Daseal;486065]No way Gibbs should get "most of the credit." Gibbs brought some good players into DC, no doubt about it. However, Gibbs wasn't winning with said players, he wasn't aggressive like Zorn is, and he wasn't winning games like Zorn is.

Gibbs did some good things, but if you break it down to coaching. Gibbs II doesn't compare to Zorn thus far.[/quote]

How about the job he did last year with all those injuries and , especially to the OL and ST's death? Are you forgetting? You think Zorn could have done that? I doubted. Campbell matured last year, he arrived after the Dallas loss in Dallas, we couldn't run a lot of the plays with the right side of the line missing and therefore Campbell wasn't as effective as he is this year. Yes, they held him back so he wouldn't get killed and then he got injured. OL being healthy is the difference this year.

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[quote=Daseal;486065]No way Gibbs should get "most of the credit." Gibbs brought some good players into DC, no doubt about it. However, Gibbs wasn't winning with said players, he wasn't aggressive like Zorn is, and he wasn't winning games like Zorn is.

Gibbs did some good things, but if you break it down to coaching. Gibbs II doesn't compare to Zorn thus far.[/quote]

You're 100% correct and that's not a slap in the face to Gibbs. But Zorn is coaching his ass off. Right before the half if that was Gibbs I bet we sit on the ball and let the half end. And we all know Gibbs would have never gone for that 4th and 1. Zorn is coaching to win where Gibbs coached not to lose. I didn't like the hire at first but I believe in this guy now. Kudos to Dan and Vinny for having the balls to hire him.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;486071]How about the job he did last year with all those injuries and , especially to the OL and ST's death? Are you forgetting? You think Zorn could have done that? I doubted. Campbell matured last year, he arrived after the Dallas loss in Dallas, we couldn't run a lot of the plays with the right side of the line missing and therefore Campbell wasn't as effective as he is this year. Yes, they held him back so he wouldn't get killed and then he got injured. OL being healthy is the difference this year.[/quote]

That was last year and the defense had a lot to do with that. Stop giving all the credit to Gibbs.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;486071]How about the job he did last year with all those injuries and , especially to the OL and ST's death? Are you forgetting? You think Zorn could have done that? I doubted. Campbell matured last year, he arrived after the Dallas loss in Dallas, we couldn't run a lot of the plays with the right side of the line missing and therefore Campbell wasn't as effective as he is this year. Yes, they held him back so he wouldn't get killed and then he got injured. OL being healthy is the difference this year.[/quote]

Yes...yes...thanks Joe for assembling and keeping together this bunch of character guys, but thanks also for stepping down when you realized you couldn't get us to the SB.

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It's just so damn refreshing to have a coach who plays to win. This is what we've needed for the last four years!!!! Did anyone see Zorn on the sidelines before the 4th and 1 call? He wasn't even thinking about punting. He knew we were pushing around the Eagles front 7.

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I really don't understand why praise for Zorn automatically warrants a backhanded swipe at Gibbs everytime. What purpose does it serve and why stop there? Let's compare Zorn to every coach since Gibbs' first retirement. It's ridiculous. I've seen these comments over and over on various sites since the season started and I'm sick of it.

Don't get me wrong. I want more than anything for Zorn to succeed. I want our fans to experience the same things I did growing up watching a winning franchise. Joe Gibbs inherited a mess when he came back and didn't owe anyone squat. If you're going to continually judge him, then step back and look at the big picture. If anyone says Gibbs left this team worse than when he started, then you're either a complete idiot or you simply get your jollies tearing down a man who has given more to this franchise than any one else in its history. Did Gibbs make mistakes? Sure he did and so will Zorn. When that happens, please don't make excuses for him. I expect everyone who thinks Zorn is the greatest thing since sliced bread to criticize him with the same fervancy they continue to do with Gibbs.

What I find completely ironic is the people that said the Gibbs homers should just let him go and move on when he retired, are the same people who keep bringing him back up, only to offer criticism or take jabs at him. It was hard for me letting Gibbs go, but I moved on. I don't feel the need to compare the two. I've embraced Zorn and I'm excited at the things he's doing here. I hope he surpasses what Gibbs did and brings us 4 Lombardis. Zorn's successes will only add to our legacy. They should not and will not diminish what Gibbs accomplished.