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KI Skins Fan 09-19-2016 02:40 PM

The Defense Only Thread
 
Is it OK if we just talk Redskins Defense in this thread? This seems to be the unit most in need of improvement and I'd like to hear from some smart people who post here about where we go from here on Defense. So, to begin with, I'm wondering about a few things:

1. A lot is made out of Will Compton being a "quarterback" on Defense. Yet, Will is a mediocre athlete, IMO. So, just how important is a "QB" on defense, anyway? Yesterday, Will got "dinged" and went out of the game for a while. S'ua Cravens came in and made a series of big plays, a couple of them tackles for loss. Shouldn't talent prevail, even at the defensive "QB" position?

2. I thought I saw some plays where Trent Murphy lined up at OLB and Preston Smith lined up inside of him with his hand in the dirt as a DE on passing downs. It seemed to work well for us. What do you think of this alignment going forward?

3. How long does it take to get a player ready to play the slot CB position? Yesterday, I saw Dashaun Phillips chasing the Dallas slot receiver a lot but not actually covering him. Their slot receiver had a field day against us. Kendall Fuller is very talented and he seems to be perfect for the slot CB role. He can cover and he is a playmaker. When is he likely to see the field?

Ruhskins 09-19-2016 02:49 PM

Re: The Defense Only Thread
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1148592]Is it OK if we just talk Redskins Defense in this thread? This seems to be the unit most in need of improvement and I'd like to hear from some smart people who post here about where we go from here on Defense. So, to begin with, I'm wondering about a few things:

1. A lot is made out of Will Compton being a "quarterback" on Defense. Yet, Will is a mediocre athlete, IMO. So, just how important is a "QB" on defense, anyway? Yesterday, Will got "dinged" and went out of the game for a while. S'ua Cravens came in and made a series of big plays, a couple of them tackles for loss. Shouldn't talent prevail, even at the defensive "QB" position?

2. I thought I saw some plays where Trent Murphy lined up at OLB and Preston Smith lined up inside of him with his hand in the dirt as a DE on passing downs. It seemed to work well for us. What do you think of this alignment going forward?

3. How long does it take to get a player ready to play the slot CB position? Yesterday, I saw Dashaun Phillips chasing the Dallas slot receiver a lot but not actually covering him. Their slot receiver had a field day against us. Kendall Fuller is very talented and he seems to be perfect for the slot CB role. He can cover and he is a playmaker. When is he likely to see the field?[/quote]

Very good thread.

In regards to your point about Compton and Cravens, I'm wondering why both of them cannot be on the field. Since we are technically a 3-4 defense, doesn't that mean that we can line up two players at ILB? Just curious.

I think the biggest need for the offense is in the interior line. We either need to draft a first round player or get a starting-caliber free agent. I know we missed out on Leonard William, but I don't think we could have passed on Scherff.

I don't see the interior line being disruptive enough for the edge rushers to work. Both Preston and Kerrigan are just pushed around the opposing QB, because there is always a nice pocket in the middle due to the lack of push by the interior line.

KI Skins Fan 09-19-2016 02:53 PM

Re: The Defense Only Thread
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1148594]I don't see the interior line being disruptive enough for the edge rushers to work. Both Preston and Kerrigan are just pushed around the opposing QB, because there is always a nice pocket in the middle due to the lack of push by the interior line.[/quote]

What do you think about using Preston as an inside rusher on passing downs?

Alvin Walton 09-19-2016 03:00 PM

Re: The Defense Only Thread
 
At this point I would put Preston anywhere that works.
We did a little better yesterday but our QB pressure overall is really lacking.

SirLK26 09-19-2016 03:07 PM

Re: The Defense Only Thread
 
It starts up front with the Dline. Our defensive personnel is better everywhere except the line imo, where we actually regressed. We need better guys up front plain and simple, and it's not gonna happen this year

KI Skins Fan 09-19-2016 03:11 PM

Re: The Defense Only Thread
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;1148598]At this point I would put Preston anywhere that works.
We did a little better yesterday but our QB pressure overall is really lacking.[/quote]

Preston Smith is as big as Justin Tuck was as a player. Smith reminds me of Tuck. Tuck used his hands very well, as does Smith. Smith could give guards and centers fits with his quickness.

Ruhskins 09-19-2016 03:16 PM

Re: The Defense Only Thread
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1148601]Preston Smith is as big as Justin Tuck was as a player. Smith reminds me of Tuck. Tuck used his hands very well, as does Smith. Smith could give guards and centers fits with his quickness.[/quote]

Yes, but if you take Preston out of the edge, then you are creating a hole there.

Just got a notice from ESPN that Golston is out for the season and Ionnadis is being called up from the PS.

SFREDSKIN 09-19-2016 03:23 PM

Re: The Defense Only Thread
 
Golston to IR, Ioannisis activated. Is this mean Golston is done for the season and possibly career with Washington?

Chico23231 09-19-2016 03:26 PM

Re: The Defense Only Thread
 
More Cravens on defense...with Golston out, like to see Lanier get some reps.

like I said last week...id put 5 on the LOS almost every down, do some zone blitzing. I hated we played coverage with Dak who picked it apart.

Also Trent Murphy really impressed me in the second half...he just earned more Playing time..

calia 09-19-2016 03:27 PM

Re: The Defense Only Thread
 
[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1148605]Golston to IR, Ioannisis activated. Is this mean Golston is done for the season and possibly career with Washington?[/QUOTE]



Hard to see him returning when the D line is such an obvious weakness. I imagine we will see a real rebuild effort on the D line next year. Hood and Reyes were likely viewed as stop game measures at most.


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SFREDSKIN 09-19-2016 03:33 PM

Re: The Defense Only Thread
 
Time for some of this young bucks to see action, Ionnidis and Lanier. They need to step it up.

over the mountain 09-19-2016 03:42 PM

Re: The Defense Only Thread
 
3rd and 8 at DAL 33
(13:59 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass short middle to D.Bryant to WAS 49 for 18 yards (D.Bruton, D.Hall)

3rd and 9 at WSH 48
(11:57 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass deep middle to D.Bryant to WAS 31 for 17 yards (B.Breeland). Penalty on WAS-P.Smith, Defensive Offside, declined

3rd and 11 at WSH 22
(6:33 - 3rd) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass deep left to D.Bryant to WAS 6 for 16 yards (B.Breeland)

3rd and 11 at WSH 24
(6:04 - 4th) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass short left to C.Beasley ran ob at WAS 12 for 12 yards (J.Norman)

mredskins 09-19-2016 03:45 PM

Re: The Defense Only Thread
 
The problem with the defense is the indecision of Kurt Cousins.

calia 09-19-2016 03:48 PM

Re: The Defense Only Thread
 
[quote=mredskins;1148610]The problem with the defense is the indecision of Kurt Cousins.[/quote]

Who is Kurt Cousins?

skinsfan69 09-19-2016 03:53 PM

Re: The Defense Only Thread
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1148592]Is it OK if we just talk Redskins Defense in this thread? This seems to be the unit most in need of improvement and I'd like to hear from some smart people who post here about where we go from here on Defense. So, to begin with, I'm wondering about a few things:

1. A lot is made out of Will Compton being a "quarterback" on Defense. Yet, Will is a mediocre athlete, IMO. So, just how important is a "QB" on defense, anyway? Yesterday, Will got "dinged" and went out of the game for a while. S'ua Cravens came in and made a series of big plays, a couple of them tackles for loss. Shouldn't talent prevail, even at the defensive "QB" position?

2. I thought I saw some plays where Trent Murphy lined up at OLB and Preston Smith lined up inside of him with his hand in the dirt as a DE on passing downs. It seemed to work well for us. What do you think of this alignment going forward?

3. How long does it take to get a player ready to play the slot CB position? Yesterday, I saw Dashaun Phillips chasing the Dallas slot receiver a lot but not actually covering him. Their slot receiver had a field day against us. Kendall Fuller is very talented and he seems to be perfect for the slot CB role. He can cover and he is a playmaker. When is he likely to see the field?[/quote]

1. Compton as hard as he plays and as hard as he studies, he still isn't a good enough athlete to be a starter. To me he's just a teams player and a backup. Nothing wrong with that but he isn't a starter. Cravens isn't a ILB on running downs, no way. He needs to be on the field more though. Put him at SS on run downs, ILB on obvious passing downs.

2. Love it. We really don't have any other choice on obvious passing downs. Trent played one of his better games. Hopefully he can keep it up. But even still, we need to add another athlete here. Kerrigan is just average to me.

3. It seems Phillips beat out Fuller for the slot corner in pre season. He was abused yesterday by the #3 wr yesterday. He's in for a long ass game against the Giants.

4. I've already mentioned Joe Barry. A change needs to be made when the season is over. He stinks like rotten seafood.


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