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mattdouthat 10-18-2005 06:04 PM

Wide Reciever Screen
 
Wow I saw them throw that screen to Moss and I was like not again that play never works very well then all pf a sudden Moss is gone and I was like god I love that play. I know plenty of us have trashed that play these last years but when exucuted right that play was beautiful.

RedskinRat 10-18-2005 06:43 PM

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When it works it's a thing of beauty, however the other 150 times......

gusbus 10-18-2005 07:03 PM

Re: Wide Reciever Screen
 
I would like to see a screen thrown to Portis out of the backfield. I don't think they have run that play all season. It would get Portis out in the open with blockers in front of hi. Look what Priest did with it.

Gmanc711 10-18-2005 07:49 PM

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Everyone just has to do their assignments in terms of blocking, and the play is great. The time I hate the play is when they throw it into one on one coverage and theres no blockers, then I think its a worthless play.

jhold4th 10-18-2005 07:54 PM

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I remember the swing pass working very well with Betts and Cartwright when SS ran the show.

The few times they did it was sweet.

BigSKINBauer 10-18-2005 08:12 PM

Re: Wide Reciever Screen
 
[QUOTE=gusbus]I would like to see a screen thrown to Portis out of the backfield. I don't think they have run that play all season. It would get Portis out in the open with blockers in front of hi. Look what Priest did with it.[/QUOTE]they threw a sorta screen to portis in the last game right? I think it was the one where he caught it at the right and had a couple blockers ready for him and they picked up their blocks but he tripped over the air and fell down. It is wierd he always is tripping

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saden1 10-18-2005 08:17 PM

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I've seen plenty of grumbling about the WR screen play and I don't know why people hate it. It will pick you up 3 yards if nothing else and if you catch the defense blitzing or CB 10 yards off it's has a potential home run play. Not only that but if you do it a number of times there is a potential that the CB will creep up and your WR can go deep and catch a bomb.

Put me down as one that has always been a fan WR screens...

BigSKINBauer 10-18-2005 08:37 PM

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the thing is that we are now getting so much cushion that the other teams are practically telling us to do it. Last year the screen never worked but Moss has just so much speed that people start to fall down as he runs by them. Maybe it will start working better but it as good as a decent run so why not do some screens. The only thing is the screen makes the defense play closer and closer as it is run more and more, as the other teams last year played close enough we couldn't get the run going and i feel the stupid 1 yard and screen passes were doing us in. maybe this year playing up close just won't be an option with our speed

saskin 10-18-2005 09:58 PM

Re: Wide Reciever Screen
 
[QUOTE=mattdouthat]Wow I saw them throw that screen to Moss and I was like not again that play never works very well then all pf a sudden Moss is gone and I was like god I love that play. I know plenty of us have trashed that play these last years but when exucuted right that play was beautiful.[/QUOTE]

Lol, I was thinking the same thing and then Moss just hit the jets and I jumped out of my chair and was yellling and screaming and clapping....

VTSkins897 10-18-2005 10:22 PM

Re: Wide Reciever Screen
 
the WR screen is a good play. it, to me is the passing equivalent of a running play. it's gonna get you a few yards and i puts the ball in the hands of one of the fastest players in the NFL.

there are some who when as soon as they see its a pass play, feel that it shud be a bomb or something. this is stupid. if anything beyond what i said earlier, the WR screen keeps the cb on their toes, forces them to make a tackle, and sets up other plays in the offensive arsenal.

so stand by the wr screen and dont be one of "those" fans...

STPainmaker 10-18-2005 11:40 PM

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[QUOTE=gusbus]I would like to see a screen thrown to Portis out of the backfield. I don't think they have run that play all season. It would get Portis out in the open with blockers in front of hi. Look what Priest did with it.[/QUOTE]

I have said this on multiple posts in the last month. We don't design enough pure screens for CP. We pass to him as like a 5th choice on the checkdown after the tackle eligible. I mean you only need run a designed screen 4 or 5 times a game and teams cannot just blitz you to death b/c it is a play designed to punish over pursuit. It trains the defense early that if they go after us they potentially could get burned. It obviously want stop them from coming after us but it plants a seed in the back of their head to keep contain.

EternalEnigma21 10-19-2005 12:00 AM

Re: Wide Reciever Screen
 
You know, I don't remember what thread it was in, but I started talking about screen passes and I got reamed for it. Quite a few people were telling me that we don't run screen passes under Joe Gibbs system, they're only quick hitches. Where are those guys at?

STPainmaker 10-19-2005 12:15 AM

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[QUOTE=canthetuna]You know, I don't remember what thread it was in, but I started talking about screen passes and I got reamed for it. Quite a few people were telling me that we don't run screen passes under Joe Gibbs system, they're only quick hitches. Where are those guys at?[/QUOTE]

I remeber your post I responded in that thread also.

BigSKINBauer 10-19-2005 12:41 AM

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[QUOTE=canthetuna]You know, I don't remember what thread it was in, but I started talking about screen passes and I got reamed for it. Quite a few people were telling me that we don't run screen passes under Joe Gibbs system, they're only quick hitches. Where are those guys at?[/QUOTE]

it was in this thread "Does the Wash Post Writer Actually Know the Redskins?"
[url="http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=7145&page=1&pp=10&highlight=Screen"]http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=7145&page=1&pp=10&highlight=Screen[/url]
Yah yah i know i'm clutch

Redskins8588 10-19-2005 04:55 AM

Re: Wide Reciever Screen
 
I feel that with Moss we can now actually use the WR screen more effectivly(SP). I mean if you think about it a WR screen is kinda lika a punt return. Once the ball is snaped the WR has to turn to the QB and wait for the ball, then by the time the ball is to him his blockers only really have to get the 1st wave of deffenders off the WR and its all down hill from there.

Like on a punt return, the returner waits for the ball and then hopefully his blockers can keep the first wave off of him and then its off to the races.

So, with Moss he has the quickness to help his blockers and get through the first wave, then he has the jets to go the distance. Where as with Coles last year I dont think that he is all that quick. Yeah Coles is fast but not quick, to have the moves to make deffenders miss... Just my thoughts...


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