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Originally Posted by Lotus
Yeah, because it is impossible for Obama to violate the Constitution in one situation but protect it in a completely different situation. How hilarious.
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Like enforcing immigration laws? Thanks for making my argument for me.
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Actually it did not take two to tango.
Some (not all) Capital Hill Republicans signed a letter in August which described their unilateral plan to shutdown the government if needed. Not only was there a unilateral plan, they put it in writing. Read more here;
Where the G.O.P.'s Suicide Caucus Lives : The New Yorker
I'm not sure how Obama can be blamed for someone else's written document.
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All your link is saying the Republicans decided to defund Obamacare, knowing the Democrats could not accept the budget without it, resulting in the government shutting down. And the article repeatedly calling the Republicans "suicide caucus".
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Moreover, your line about how Obama cared less about the shutdown than he did about Obamacare misses a fundamental Constitutional point: The ACA is a law and the President is Constitutionally required to enact and defend laws. Put differently, even if Bush had been in the White House, he would have been Constitutionally required to endure the shutdown rather than scrapping the ACA.
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Congress has the power of the purse strings. They can defund lots of things "written into law" (military spending, highway and transportation, etc.). Besides the Obamacare regulations on insurance companies and healthcare plans are law, but not the $ amount Congress spends, so I think you're confusing what is law and what isn't.
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But since we are blaming Obama for someone else's document and for defending the Constitution, I'll offer this: (snip "DON'T BLAME OBAMA PIC")
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Blaming Obama for someone opposing him? WTF are you on about?
This pic's just as accurate as the ones blaming Republicans for the shutdown.
The real issue is what both parties passed in Congress as a result of the "shutdown". But hey, enough people think they're getting free unlimited healthcare, and let's blame Republicans not Obama for everything, so who cares!