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Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

I can't tell if you're serious.



His record with Tom Brady is a little different than his record with "anyone":



Bill Belichick or Tom Brady: Who Deserves More Credit for the Patriots' Success? | Bleacher Report



Footnote: I'm just citing the win/loss record, not the Bleacher Report Analysis.

You are comparing Gruden to belichik?!

Come on now, look at all the well known coaches. Parcells, shanarat, Reid, Gibbs and so on.

They are able to use the personnel they have. Skins fans of all fans should know what a great coach does, look what Gibbs won with!!

Fact of the matter is Gruden is stubborn about what he thinks works, ok so now prove it.

Shanarat, one of the biggest egomaniacs, adjusted and made it work.

Reid has made the playoffs with captain check down at QB and should have beat the colts too.

Gruden is a terrible coach until he proves otherwise and to be as stubborn as he is about his "system" makes it even more amazing to witness.