[Giantone]

Originally Posted by That Guy

well, since bush and obama, we've tortured people, but haven't called it torture, we've killed a lot of civilians but redefined civilians to make the stats look better, and we've decided that prisoners taken in a war aren't actually prisoners of war. the country has expanded government and spending drastically, we have two new organizations, one which spends a lot of time spying on americans, another that is only there to annoy us at airports to make us feel safe without actually providing real security. we've also taken a very marginal step towards universal health care, which is either good or bad (it's hard to tell without writing a thesis on it, it's not fully implemented, and important things like the cost control board aren't formed yet).

You act like this is all new.I know I am showing my age and I apologize for it I try not to but I would love to have everyone who is 40 years and younger live through the Vietnam era, without twitter or e-mail and cell phones and see what life was like during a war (yeah it was a "conflict")

I agree with MalcomConnection ,having Donald Trump as President and have him go off nuclear or worse could very well be the end of this country and this world.No other canidate scares me in that way.