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Originally Posted by That Guy
so tafkas is lazy for looking up posts, yet you bring up none to prove that you were misquoted, and you also say that you play both sides, so you can't be wrong... then you go point by point to minimize the quotes that you yourself posted.. oh yeah, i forgot, offis is always right, even when he's not and even when he says he's not.
and again, in that one game portis was hurt and had his longest run called back, so i don't think that final stat line is accurate. you bring up the 3.8ypc, yet fail to mention the awful oline and the fact that his average is much higher this year (4.4) and we've faced generally better defenses. So for all the i told you so's and i'm rights you've been trying to cram down our throats, you're recounting of facts seems a bit convenient.
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O-line???? What on earth has been my contention all along??????????
Are you saying the line blocking has everything to do with a backs success, because your going to get some opposition on that one, I know I have.
The fact is I can't go back far enough to pull up things that were said unlike Taf, for whatever reason I can only go back to recent posts.
I wasen't misquoted nor did I say that, what I said was I was paraphrased which means it was taken out of context.
For example if I made a point about Gibbs not running a modern day offense and the main cause for our inability to move the ball, but many said it's not Gibbs it's the fact that Gibbs wasted to much time on Ramsey, and Brunell needs to catch up, then I had presented Brunells starting numbers and the amount of time he has had to catch up comparitvly to Ramsey, A lot of what was said in almost all the posts I have made were a back and forth fight over Brunell VS Ramsey, where Gibbs was thrown out of the controversy and the focus was strickly on the 2 QB's, considering someone [whomever] wanted to make it about Brunell, I said last season as well as all off season, I don't like Brunell regardless, but he was made to look far worse than he really is by the inaffectivness of Gibbs game planning. As if there can only have been 1 problem with our offense not 2, as in a Gibbs and Brunell problem, which it was, even when there were players open he couldn't get the ball downfield he couldn't hit a reciever 5 yards over the line last year, and all we heard was Gibbs pass patterns are simplistic and easy to cover, but we all know for as heated as that debate became that it was constantly pushed to a Brunell against Ramsey debate, or a Gibbs debate so to comment on what was wrong with either one in seperate posts and then try to jumble them together without putting up the context of the rest of the post as well as other threads isn't fair at all.
It's funny how Portis gets cut slack for being hurt, but that was one of the first excuses I heard about Bell not being a good back last season because he can't stay on the field because of injury.
Take a good look at your post, you are contradicting yourself in disagreing with me, your contention is Portis didn't run well because of his line, my contention all along is Portis has to have major blocking to be effective, I said it before we traded for him, when you give a back that kind of blocking you don't need a superstar at RB. Which brings us right back to square 1, he's not LT, he's not Deuce MC, he's not Corey Dillion, he's not Curtis Martin, or Tiki Barber, or Westbrook, or Sean Alexander, Edgerin James, what kind of line does Tampa have? Yet we have a rookie in Williams setting records, I could continue on with comparisons, but does anyone think Portis is better than the players I just mentioned?
I find it ironic how time and again I hear how circumstances dictate why Portis didn't have a Portis year last year, line etc. Yet circumstances didn't dictate why he succeeded in Denver? As Al Wilson said it's the system not the back.
Will Portis become the runner for us that he was in Denver? My answer is yes, as soon as we give him holes the size he saw in Denver, other wise he will be a good back for us, GOOD, but it cost us a whole lot for a good back, we paid for a great back, GREAT.
Probably the best example I can give you is Tiki vs Portis, Tiki had no offensive line last season, no WR's, and a rookie QB for most of the season, as much as I don't like the Giants, you can't dispute that Barbers situation was worse than ours, and he had a great season, sorry I wish Portis was a great back I really do, I don't hate the guy in fact I like him he's got a good personality but production is another issue all together.