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skinsfanthru&thru · 10-13-2005, 05:46 PM

While I think the catcher should have played it safe, the onus in this situation rests on the Umpire to clearly signal one way or another that the play was still live instead of backing off the fact that he signaled peirzinki(sp?) out. He has admited that he didn't say anything like they normally do that play hadn't stopped and he definitely shouldn't have made the closed fist gesture until the player had been tagged out. He said that that is his strike out gesture, but as they just showed on PTI, earlier in the game the umpire was in a similar situation with an angel at bat but he didn't make the same closed fist motion until after the player had been tagged. It's a big f-up on the angel's catchers part but in my opinion it's a vastly bigger f-up by the umpire for giving the angel players a premature signal of the chi sox player being out.
hopefully this doesn't spoil what looked to be an awesome matchup this series.

10-13-2005, 05:46 PM	#32
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 45 Posts: 3,815	Re: MLB playoffs. While I think the catcher should have played it safe, the onus in this situation rests on the Umpire to clearly signal one way or another that the play was still live instead of backing off the fact that he signaled peirzinki(sp?) out. He has admited that he didn't say anything like they normally do that play hadn't stopped and he definitely shouldn't have made the closed fist gesture until the player had been tagged out. He said that that is his strike out gesture, but as they just showed on PTI, earlier in the game the umpire was in a similar situation with an angel at bat but he didn't make the same closed fist motion until after the player had been tagged. It's a big f-up on the angel's catchers part but in my opinion it's a vastly bigger f-up by the umpire for giving the angel players a premature signal of the chi sox player being out. hopefully this doesn't spoil what looked to be an awesome matchup this series.