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Old 12-14-2016, 02:32 PM   #8
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Re: Recount Opinions

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Originally Posted by Giantone View Post
Joe , how can knowing that the man who just got elected by preaching racism,bigotry and hatred to the highest position in the country not bother you?You admit he is "not in touch with reality" a small minority of voters voted him in and you seem fine with it.You make an assumption that Trump is talking over my head just becuase I didn't want him elected.Politics I can take or leave and living in Maryland I am use to the Democratic side of life and we manage to get Larry Hogan in and people love him both Dems and Republicans .Point is Trump is not about polotics ,Trump could very well get this country into a spot we will never get out .He did not know what the Nuclear Triad was,you are a smart man,how does this not scare you?
First, to be clear, and as CRed has already pointed out, Trump was not put in office by "a small minority of voters."

Trump is a demagogue. I dislike all demagogues b/c they play on emotion and seek to destroy thoughtful dialogue. When I said Trump is not in touch with reality, I was referring to his ability to completely manipulate facts or just outright deny facts as he sees fit. He then "creates his own reality" which justifies his actions, leaving his critics helplessly claiming "you can't do that." Too late, he has ... and while the left screams "see! see! he's doing it again!", Trump has moved on to his next reality creating moment. The left's Pavlovian, and equally clueless, reaction to this dog and pony show just amuses the crap out of me. Doesn't mean I think Trump is great guy, I just happen to love when "smug" gets smacked.

Trump said many things that were truly horrible, but I wouldn't characterize him as "preaching racism bigotry and hatred." There is a difference between making stupid remarks and actively "preaching" bigotry and hate. Hitler preached bigotry and hate, Trump did not. Again, as is often the case on the left, by lumping in offensive actions with those that are truly evil, real evil is marginalized and distorted. Trump may ultimately end up a fervent anti-democrat (small d) and adopt the worst of the nativist movement, but he is not a fascist and did not "preach" that kind of hate and bigotry.

Rather, in a very non-pc way, Trump has consistently said America must put Americans first. There are groups and individuals who will always find racism in that sentiment - nativism has long been the refuge of prejudice and ignorance. Given his "wink-wink, nod-nod" attitude toward these individuals and groups during the campaign and his statements about women, yes - I am more than a little concerned that he will end up deepening the rift that divides us in this country.

I am not Trump fanatic by any means. I have serious concerns about his Presidency - some that have been mentioned some that have not. At the same time, I don't believe the apocalypse is on its way or that he will "get this country into a spot we will never get out." Sorry, Trump is just not as dumb as the left seems to think he is.

My point throughout this has simply been to point out that, barring the apocalypse it so confidently predicts (of course, the left confidently predicted that Trump didn't stand a snowball's chance in hell in the first place), the left is bound to lose to him again in 2020 if they don't learn from 2016.

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