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Old 06-17-2018, 07:57 PM   #585
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Re: When is Enough ,Enough?

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Originally Posted by MTK View Post
lol grab pussys

Imagine this level of idiocy under Obama?? Republicans would have lost their ever loving minds
Professionalism only matters when it's a Dem. It's refreshing to have a man of the people in the WH.

Chico, I read the Chicago Tribune article about why Obama is complicit in the investigation of Clinton. I also agree, if it was anybody else who wasn't running for President, they would've taken it to a grand jury and let it go from there. But since the person in question was one of two major candidates to run the country they obviously let that impact their decision making. Should it have been handled differently? Definitely. Is there anything we can do about it now? No. This is going to read as cop out but complaining about ancient history in this 15 minute news cycle isn't going to solve any of our problems today.

That article also makes another good point. It doesn't think the Russian investigation should be shut down because there were a pair of anti-Trumpers on it at one point. I'd be surprised if anybody on it doesn't have an opinion on modern politics.

Furthermore, just so we're clear, I don't think Trump colluded with Russia. I think his staff (not necessarily him) worked with Cambridge Analytica to analyze user data on FB and the like to figure out how they could spread their message (aka fake news) to their social-media friendly base. Did they meet with Russians? Definitely. Anything beyond that, idk.

Of real interest to me is wondering why Trump is shitting his pants about calling the Russian investigation fake. This whole "destroy the investigation's credibility" campaign reminds me of an old quote pro-Patriot Act people said. "If you have nothing to hide, what are you worried about?" If Trump was innocent, I'd think he would just brush it off casually because he knows they have nothing. But there's definitely smoke now with several of his lieutenants having charges brought against them, and we don't even have charges against his personal fixer yet (supposedly incoming).

I have a very-unsubstantiated hunch that after all the bankruptcies he's been through, at some point some Putin-affiliated Russians loaned him money that he stills owes them. Maybe that money is illegitimate, and he's worried that if the gov't finds out he's in debt to Russians that would bring impeachment charges. Obviously I have no evidence to support this theory, but I find it intriguing as to why a supposedly innocent man is freaking out about an investigation that would be a waste of time if there was nothing there.

Finally, I like to think that in this evidence-based criminal justice system we rely on, if Mueller thinks Trump should be recommended for impeachment it'd be based on evidence, not the personal opinion of two of his former staff.
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