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JoeRedskin · 05-10-2004, 09:51 AM

Is everyone ready for a shocker? I am in 100% agreement with Daseal.

For all his faults, Ramsey won his teammates over by standing in and being a man - took the hits, took the crap, didn't point fingers. They respect him and believe in him. While I was not a fan of his off season whine about wanting to be traded, I think he earned the right to say "It's my job - you have to take it from me." Everyone here pretty here much seems to be in agreement that it's Brunnell's job to lose. Well, why should that be? Didn't Ramsey take the hits? Didn't Ramsey say he needed to play better? Didn't Ramsey play injured?

If Ramsey's skills as a passer and qb are really less than those of Brunnell (including the experience factor), then let Brunell prove it. Given what he has done and, equally as important, HOW he has done it, this should be Ramsey's team.

If he's good enough - Brunnell should be the one who has to outshine Ramsey.

Don't get me wrong - while I really like Ramsey, I think the critiques of him are basically valid - slow delivery and recognition. How much of that was systematic and how much was inherent lack of ability only time will tell. Remember, Spurrier's system was very different than any other in the league and from most college programs (certainly from Tulane's shotgun offense). In the Spurrier system, QB's had an entirely different way of progressing through reads - through areas on the field rather than by route. Also, the QB was charged with recognizing the defense (a skill that takes most NFL QB's, even good ones, years to perfect) and calling the play at the line based on that recognition. Basically, Spurrier put the entire weight of the offense's success on the QB. I am not sure any young QB could succeed in it on an NFL level (maybe NO QB could). That Ramsey had any success in this system, I think, speaks volumes for his abilities.

I am hoping that Ramsey's failings were do more to the system than due to an inherent lack of ability. Regardless, until he is "shown up", I think the team (certainly the line) will resent the fact that he is being replaced.

05-10-2004, 09:51 AM	#38
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 63 Posts: 10,401	Is everyone ready for a shocker? I am in 100% agreement with Daseal. For all his faults, Ramsey won his teammates over by standing in and being a man - took the hits, took the crap, didn't point fingers. They respect him and believe in him. While I was not a fan of his off season whine about wanting to be traded, I think he earned the right to say "It's my job - you have to take it from me." Everyone here pretty here much seems to be in agreement that it's Brunnell's job to lose. Well, why should that be? Didn't Ramsey take the hits? Didn't Ramsey say he needed to play better? Didn't Ramsey play injured? If Ramsey's skills as a passer and qb are really less than those of Brunnell (including the experience factor), then let Brunell prove it. Given what he has done and, equally as important, HOW he has done it, this should be Ramsey's team. If he's good enough - Brunnell should be the one who has to outshine Ramsey. Don't get me wrong - while I really like Ramsey, I think the critiques of him are basically valid - slow delivery and recognition. How much of that was systematic and how much was inherent lack of ability only time will tell. Remember, Spurrier's system was very different than any other in the league and from most college programs (certainly from Tulane's shotgun offense). In the Spurrier system, QB's had an entirely different way of progressing through reads - through areas on the field rather than by route. Also, the QB was charged with recognizing the defense (a skill that takes most NFL QB's, even good ones, years to perfect) and calling the play at the line based on that recognition. Basically, Spurrier put the entire weight of the offense's success on the QB. I am not sure any young QB could succeed in it on an NFL level (maybe NO QB could). That Ramsey had any success in this system, I think, speaks volumes for his abilities. I am hoping that Ramsey's failings were do more to the system than due to an inherent lack of ability. Regardless, until he is "shown up", I think the team (certainly the line) will resent the fact that he is being replaced.