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SpeedyDuncan · 03-23-2020, 07:41 PM

I like this trade. This is a position where depth was needed and we got a system player with experience. Granted, the Skins have made a few good 5th round selections in the last few years ( Ioannidis, Sprinkle, Settle and Holcomb - Piersbacher (?)). Of these players, only Ioannidis is the only proven, quality starter and he was a damn good pick. I will also remind you that in 2016 our number 1 was Doctson and our number 2 was Cravens. It doesn't matter how many picks a team has if they miss that badly at the top.

Before you get too outraged, go back through the last 5 years of drafts and see what we have done in the mid-late rounds. Getting a guy for a 5th round pick who may at some point start at QB (hopefully as a back up) is good value. It would not be surprising to see him sign an extension at a reasonable rate, given his relationships with Rivera and Turner.

Trading Dunbar for a 5th round pick may not be what fans think he is worth, but it is what the market will bear for a guy in his last year. Plus, he is a malcontent, so cya. In the end, we moved down 6 picks in the 5th round (from 148 to 154). It's essentially a straight up trade for us.

I would like to see some of the responses to trades made during the George Allen era when nearly all of the picks were traded for 30+ year old guys with beer guts.

Lastly, our team needs a new identity which I hope Rivera will bring. If players want to move on, let them go. I am glad to see Nicholson let go, as well (too many off field issues). The Joe Gibbs Super Bowl teams had guys with 'personality', but they were all good players who lined up as a team on Sundays. The underlying core of those teams were role players who fit specific needs. The rules were different then. Teams could stash players. But, the rules were the same for all teams. The Redskins, among some other great teams from that era, knew how to find players that fit their schemes and they had excellent depth even if the back ups were not household names.

03-23-2020, 07:41 PM	#11
SpeedyDuncan Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 43	Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen I like this trade. This is a position where depth was needed and we got a system player with experience. Granted, the Skins have made a few good 5th round selections in the last few years ( Ioannidis, Sprinkle, Settle and Holcomb - Piersbacher (?)). Of these players, only Ioannidis is the only proven, quality starter and he was a damn good pick. I will also remind you that in 2016 our number 1 was Doctson and our number 2 was Cravens. It doesn't matter how many picks a team has if they miss that badly at the top. Before you get too outraged, go back through the last 5 years of drafts and see what we have done in the mid-late rounds. Getting a guy for a 5th round pick who may at some point start at QB (hopefully as a back up) is good value. It would not be surprising to see him sign an extension at a reasonable rate, given his relationships with Rivera and Turner. Trading Dunbar for a 5th round pick may not be what fans think he is worth, but it is what the market will bear for a guy in his last year. Plus, he is a malcontent, so cya. In the end, we moved down 6 picks in the 5th round (from 148 to 154). It's essentially a straight up trade for us. I would like to see some of the responses to trades made during the George Allen era when nearly all of the picks were traded for 30+ year old guys with beer guts. Lastly, our team needs a new identity which I hope Rivera will bring. If players want to move on, let them go. I am glad to see Nicholson let go, as well (too many off field issues). The Joe Gibbs Super Bowl teams had guys with 'personality', but they were all good players who lined up as a team on Sundays. The underlying core of those teams were role players who fit specific needs. The rules were different then. Teams could stash players. But, the rules were the same for all teams. The Redskins, among some other great teams from that era, knew how to find players that fit their schemes and they had excellent depth even if the back ups were not household names.