Living Legend
Join Date: Aug 2008
Age: 57
Posts: 21,553
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Re: Coronavirus (political)
so, I have stayed away from all this because I know the general tone in the thread. I will put this here, and if anyone wants to have a decent discussion I am all for it. The point stated up front is while the NY/NJ/Mass/Connecticut numbers are horrendous, the US as a whole did far better in mitigating the Coronavirus outbreak than European countries.
Northern European Countries with Deaths per million > 278 (US Average)
Country, Deaths per Million, Tests per Million
Belgium,784,"60,157"
Andorra,660,"48,543"
Spain,593,"64,977"
Italy,529,"50,294"
UK,513,"39,542"
France,433,"21,218"
Sweden,366,"17,588"
Netherlands,332,"17,358"
Ireland,314,"52,484"
Isle of Man,282,"49,035"
I will note Germany's exceptionally low number of 97 deaths per million, and credit German's strict "ordnung" or ocd to government laws as a part of their success.
Compare those major countries that are way over our average to our states
New York,1456,"73,018"
New Jersey,1167,"59,053"
Connecticut,956,"47,852"
Massachusetts,841,"66,859"
District Of Columbia,543,"51,755"
Louisiana,536,"57,041"
Michigan,490,"41,205"
Rhode Island,471,"106,243"
Pennsylvania,352,"26,881"
Illinois,330,"45,924"
Maryland,329,"32,242"
Delaware,298,"41,966"
Those 12 are mostly in the New York Corridor of the Pandemic, the outliers are Michigan, Illinois and Louisana. Coincidentally (or not) of those 12 states, 9 were definite losses for Trump before all this started.
If you took out NY,NJ,Connecticut and Massachusetts out of the total US count, I would imagine the 278 number would drop to close to 200, but I didn't do the math so not sure.
The other 38 states plus territories are well below the European countries
Indiana,260,"26,328"
Colorado,211,"21,937"
Mississippi,175,"38,011"
Georgia,152,"33,075"
Ohio,139,"22,625"
Washington,133,"37,887"
Minnesota,130,"26,705"
New Mexico,126,"63,550"
New Hampshire,126,"39,277"
Virginia,118,"24,700"
Nevada,114,"31,152"
Iowa,111,"31,771"
Alabama,100,"31,887"
Missouri,98,"25,588"
Arizona,93,"27,890"
Florida,92,"30,407"
Vermont,87,"37,188"
California,83,"31,465"
Wisconsin,78,"26,143"
South Carolina,75,"24,822"
Kentucky,75,"29,027"
Oklahoma,73,"31,204"
Kansas,67,"21,142"
North Carolina,65,"23,736"
Nebraska,64,"34,971"
North Dakota,56,"72,463"
Maine,52,"24,576"
South Dakota,50,"32,282"
Texas,47,"23,909"
Tennessee,44,"47,631"
Idaho,41,"20,521"
West Virginia,37,"42,123"
Arkansas,32,"28,227"
Oregon,32,"22,371"
Utah,25,"53,261"
Montana,15,"25,155"
Wyoming,14,"28,326"
Alaska,14,"47,367"
Hawaii,12,"29,514"
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