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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan
JoeRedskin,
I think we are talking past each other. I understand that you are saying that a club's record is all that matters when it comes to the playoffs and whether a team had a successful season. I don't dispute that. I am simply saying that club records don't always reveal how "good" a team is.
Given that you think a record is the "be all, end all," do you therefore disagree with power rankings? After all, there are a lot of teams with identical records. Yet all the teams are ranked in one of the 32 spots on a power poll.
Sometimes even, a club with a great record (i.e. 9-3) is ranked lower than a team with a worse record (i.e. 8-4). How do you feel about those kind of polls?
I know the easy answer to the above question is, "I don't care about polls and rankings, I care about the W-L column and who's in the playoffs." But seriously, do you think that it is impossible to come to different conclusions about the "quality" (and future chances of success) for two teams with identical records?
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Teams are as good as their record and teams with the same records are exactly as good as each other. By the way, the earth is flat.
Actually, I don't disagree with "rankings". I just think they are subjective opinions based on nothing more than the particular writer's biases.
I understand your point and agree that not all 7-5 teams are created equal. I also think, however, that unless and until a team wins consistently it can't be considered a "good" team and teams that lose regulary are "bad". The start of this thread was are the Redskins better than their record. I stand by my answer original answer "NO" - they are as good and no better or worse than their record.
Going to bed now. Since you're just to damn pig-headed to admit the insanity of your ludicrous position, I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
