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SunnySide · 12-03-2021, 10:10 AM

In general, infants that are born very early are not considered to be viable until after 24 weeks gestation. This means that if you give birth to an infant before they are 24 weeks old, their chance of surviving is usually less than 50 percent.

Some infants are born before 24 weeks gestation and do survive. But these infants have a very high chance of severe long-term health problems. About 40 percent of these preemies will suffer long-term health complications because they were born prematurely.

https://healthcare.utah.edu/womenshe...to-deliver.php

If we go by viable ... it appears to be roe v wades 24 weeks. There were 638,169 abortions in 2015, less than 1% were after 24 weeks. Thats 6,381 late abortions. How many of those were for life threatening medical reasons? How many 26 week pregnant moms were in horrific car accidents or injuries?

I hope there would be 0 elective abortions after 24 weeks. Id be curious to see the number.

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Europe - never did a deep dive into their abortion laws but now I know and I was surprised. There is a push in France, Italy and some other s to reform the abortion cutoff and extend it from 12 to 14 weeks. Yes, 14 is still less than 15.
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Here’s one way of looking at the difference between abortion laws in Europe and those in the U.S.: in America, abortion laws are about morality, while in Europe, they reflect national ideas of what constitutes the common good. …

Paternalistic abortion laws are, perhaps, the flip side of generous government benefits: The government provides amply for the babies you do have, but in return it gets to quiz you about your reproductive choices.

Subsequently, while a lot of these nations have abortion laws that formally reflect Christian paternalism about reproduction and women’s roles, in practice, abortion is much easier to get than it is in the United States. You may have to provide a reason for your abortion in many nations, but it’s simply a formality, a box checked and not an obstacle. More importantly, the abortion providers aren’t being hounded out of existence and in many cases, the cost of the abortion is paid for by the state health care plan. Katha Pollitt recently elaborated in The Nation:

https://slate.com/human-interest/201...-religion.html

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Russia and other countries with decreasing populations are placing more restrictions on abortion.

China wants to decrease population and has liberal abortion laws.
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Israel - i read a quote yesterday that a woman's womb is the womb of Israel. Something like that.

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20 weeks is my line. I feel like that is when the cerebral cortex just starts to develop.

Interesting conversation, I certainly googled a lot

12-03-2021, 10:10 AM	#282
SunnySide Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 4,568	Re: Supreme Court vacancy In general, infants that are born very early are not considered to be viable until after 24 weeks gestation. This means that if you give birth to an infant before they are 24 weeks old, their chance of surviving is usually less than 50 percent. Some infants are born before 24 weeks gestation and do survive. But these infants have a very high chance of severe long-term health problems. About 40 percent of these preemies will suffer long-term health complications because they were born prematurely. https://healthcare.utah.edu/womenshe...to-deliver.php If we go by viable ... it appears to be roe v wades 24 weeks. There were 638,169 abortions in 2015, less than 1% were after 24 weeks. Thats 6,381 late abortions. How many of those were for life threatening medical reasons? How many 26 week pregnant moms were in horrific car accidents or injuries? I hope there would be 0 elective abortions after 24 weeks. Id be curious to see the number. ------------------------------ Europe - never did a deep dive into their abortion laws but now I know and I was surprised. There is a push in France, Italy and some other s to reform the abortion cutoff and extend it from 12 to 14 weeks. Yes, 14 is still less than 15. ------------------- Here’s one way of looking at the difference between abortion laws in Europe and those in the U.S.: in America, abortion laws are about morality, while in Europe, they reflect national ideas of what constitutes the common good. … Paternalistic abortion laws are, perhaps, the flip side of generous government benefits: The government provides amply for the babies you do have, but in return it gets to quiz you about your reproductive choices. Subsequently, while a lot of these nations have abortion laws that formally reflect Christian paternalism about reproduction and women’s roles, in practice, abortion is much easier to get than it is in the United States. You may have to provide a reason for your abortion in many nations, but it’s simply a formality, a box checked and not an obstacle. More importantly, the abortion providers aren’t being hounded out of existence and in many cases, the cost of the abortion is paid for by the state health care plan. Katha Pollitt recently elaborated in The Nation: https://slate.com/human-interest/201...-religion.html ------------------ Russia and other countries with decreasing populations are placing more restrictions on abortion. China wants to decrease population and has liberal abortion laws. ---------------- Israel - i read a quote yesterday that a woman's womb is the womb of Israel. Something like that. --------------------- 20 weeks is my line. I feel like that is when the cerebral cortex just starts to develop. Interesting conversation, I certainly googled a lot __________________ 19,937 car accidents a day in the US. Buy a dash camera for everyone you love. Insurance companies are increasingly denying claims. Last edited by SunnySide; 12-03-2021 at 10:27 AM.