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Old 01-06-2006, 06:49 PM   #95
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Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey

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Originally Posted by Hog1
WARNING: this is not a personal attack.

Easy Mr. Ramsey, Young Patricks time will come.
I must admit I am surprised that in one sentence you suggest that Gibbs made success's out of three different QB's. THAT would suggest a certain level of mastery in that area. In the next breath, you suggest Ramsey is better than Brunell and all three of the others. Do you now believe the QB master is so blind to overlook such a super talent? You CONTINUALLY confuse what may be, with WHAT IS. I believe PR has a lot of talent and will get to display it when the time is right. I know Mark Brunell has this team poised to make a Super Bowl run.
ALL the casino's in Las Vegas are built by the money of people willing to take the emotional position, rather than the objective one. It's cool to be a Ramsey homer, but is does affect your objectivity.
Well he has in the past, before Theisman went down there was a lot of talk about Gibbs being to loyal to Joey T., and to be honest Theisman time had passed, Theisman was hard to watch late in his carreer, and yet he wouldn't yank him, understandably. But Gibbs had to do a major sell to get Brunell to come to DC, if you remember Brunell wasen't inthrawled to coming here because he felt he could still start, knowing Patrick was the future here, what do you think he was promised? No way Gibbs made that trade and paid that kind of money for a very possible backup! Gibbs made commitments to Brunell, Ramsey was on the outside looking in before he ever met Gibbs. Gibbs has no ties to Ramsey, and if you believe you can win with either than who would you go with? It's obvious the player who you are heavily invested in. I am not so much pro Ramsey as I am pro Skins, and with that I want to be the best we can be as a team, and that is why I back Ramsey because I have alway's felt he would make us better as a team than Brunell.

The fact is I am not a homer in any sense of the word, that is what allows my objectivity, homers agree with anything and everything their team does, they join forces with every decision made within the organization, if Gibbs say's this, or that, that's it do not question it, nobody is perfect, or right all the time, and that includes Gibbs, AND MYSELF as well.

The point I am trying to make which is my opinion, is that Gibbs was under a lot of heat to make Brunell pan out, he spent 43 mil, of Snyders money and gave up a #2 pick, for a QB who would have been released and signed for a backup roll and paid accordingly, one of the reasons we gave up a #2 was because Gibbs didn't want Brunell to hit free agency knowing Brunell didn't want to come here, Brunell on his own would be looking to try and start somewhere's else.

Last season is a big example of Gibbs loyalty to brunell, there isn't a member here who didn't want Brunells head last season, and probably every last person here wanted Ramsey, yet Gibbs stuck with the guy no matter how bad it got, and it got bad, so bad Gibbs finally made the switch, now either Brunell was hurt and Gibbs played him anyway, or Gibbs offense was just flat out lame? Either way Brunell was as horrible at the QB position last season as I probably have ever seen.

Now I don't have a problem with Gibbs making it work with Brunell, in fact I am very glad we are finally on the right track, I just feel and will alway's feel until Ramsey proves otherwise, that he's a better fit for a Gibbs offense, and for our team, and feel he was treated unfairly. But I also have alway's felt the bigger issue wasen't the QB's inability to play the position, but Gibbs inability to run the offense, that seems to have been rectified, and as Brunell has become better, so do I believe Ramsey would have blossomed as well.

But it's water under the bridge now, and I will be routing for Brunell big time to succeed tommorow.

QB controversies are for the off-season, this is playoff time!
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