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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

See, I agree with a lot of these statements. Up until you get to "I just think Gibbs got to wrapped up in Brunell". That's the crux of our disagreement.

Obviously, everyone is entitled to an opinion - but my point is and has been: Gibbs is smarter than us, Gibbs is dedicated to winning, and, if Gibbs believes Brunnell is the best QB for the job, then I trust that decision.

I guess I think anything (and everything) you can/have observed has been meticulously broken down by Gibbs and staff in film sessions. In reviewing that information, if Gibbs believed that PR was the better man for the job, I believe Gibbs would not have hesitated to put Ramsey in.

Also, in fairness, you have deliniated the areas in which Ramsey is better than Brunnell, mostly (and I agree with these): arm strength, toughness and youth. In addition, I would include leadership - b/c it seemed clear to me that his teammates always liked and supported him. [I would add that, although Ramsey is undoubtedly a tough cookie, Brunnelll is no shrinking violet. He took some vicious hits and came back for more and NEVER pointed any fingers at anyone but himself.]

With that said, and to really rid yourself of the "Brunnell hater" label - can you tell me anything you think Brunnell is better at than Ramsey? Or at the least indicate that you recognize some of Ramsey's shortcomings? Seriously, looking at his body of work, do you think Ramsey has not demonstrated any limitations?

I think Brunell is mobile and is smart about knowing where he is on the field for one I think that brunell recognizes when to get rid of the ball and throws a better touch pass.... he's likable i like his personality and i do respect him playing injured cause i do know when i was playing i didn't want to come out of that game unless i was dead..... he always knows where the sticks are......I think he is a good Qb i really do i just get mad and i think it's unfair when people just write Ramsey off and down him.....I'm just an very loyal person and i remember ramsey's tough years... But I can respect that Loyal side of Gibbs too ...