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Old 01-29-2006, 10:07 AM   #68
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Re: Patrick Ramsey Vs Philip Rivers

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Originally Posted by offiss
Well here let me simplify things for you, why are you bringing a player in who you do not believe can lead this team to a SB if Brunell goes down? What is the sense? And so you obviously don't feel Campbell can get the job done, so where is your backup plan? I obviously believe that Ramsey can take us to a super bowl, so I have my backup plan set. You have admitted you don't believe in yours. So you have no lack of faith in Campbell? Yet you don't believe he is capable of leading us to a super bowl next season? Talk about a walking contradiction! Who then will lead us if Brunell goes down? he's obviously not on our roster, or in KC, so who?

Further more, yes you can say the staff doesn't want him, but if that were the case why has Gibbs kept him around for 2 years? It's no secret that he wanted out more than once, and yet Gibbs refused to trade him, or release him, Gibbs constantly states that he wants players who want to be redskins, well I do believe a request to be traded pretty much say's I don't want to be a redskin, and yet he's still here, I wonder why? Miami offered up a #2 pick for him and yet we didn't take it, you mean to tell me we couldn't have signed a Todd Collins clone off the waiver wire to backup Brunell the last 2 seasons? Thats a lowsey thing to do to Ramsey, stick him on the bench for 2 years while you draft a QB to take his place, all the while he could have traded him or released him knowing he wanted nothing to do with him, and signed a backup of Todd Collins magnitude until campbell is ready, whenever THAT may occur.
Ok, I'll answer question by question to try to clarify for you.. The only reason I suggested Collins is because he is familiar with the system, not to compete for the starting job and likely not even to play, and let me make this clear again, UNLESS BRUNELL IS INJURED AND CAMPBELL FALLS ON HIS FACE. Every team needs 3 QB. The whole 'magnitude of Todd Collins' & 'Todd Collins clone' is way off base.

I think, if pressed into action, Campbell can be effective and successful, but no I don't think he can lead the team to the Super Bowl next year. That being said, I don't think any qb can be expected to lead his team to glory after never playing a down in the NFL and being thrust into the position. Tom Brady & Kurt Warner did it, but it wasn't expected of them. If it happens, huge bonus for the Redskins, but I don't think many teams have a backup that will fit that bill.

Regarding the coaching decisions on Ramsey, I assume in the 1st offseason Gibbs and Co. wanted veteran leadership at the QB position and depth, therefore they kept both QB. Going into last offseason, based on the end of the '04 season they thought Ramsey was their starter. Obviously between then and the draft they felt that Campbell was a viable QB of the future and made the moves to go get him. When Ramsey was demoted and requested out, the front office made the decision to not trade your backup QB during the season with a 34 yr old starter and a rookie backup, a wise decision IMO.

BTW, http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=15239
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