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JoeRedskin · 03-11-2006, 11:10 AM

Here is ESPN Insider's take on the guy:

"Lloyd has marginal size for a receiver lacking both the ideal height and the bulk for the position. However, he makes up for his lack of ideal size with excellent athletic ability. He has very good foot quickness and good speed, though his top end speed is not in the elite class. He has a good surge off the line of scrimmage and runs precise routes. He has a burst coming out of his cuts to get separation and shows the ability to move a defender who is in man coverage with very little wasted motion. He uses his hands and his foot quickness to get off press coverage and knows how to find the voids in coverage. He has excellent hands and can make the acrobatic catch. He shows excellent focus and concentration on the ball when it is in the air, and with his long arms and his leaping ability, he will win most jump ball contests. He can be a threat with the ball in his hands and has a good feel for where he is on the field and where the sideline is at all times. He lacks the physical stature to be a physical blocker down field and is more of a screen and wall off guy. A big, strong defensive back can muscle him out of his routes on occasion. Overall, he needs to improve his strength and is becoming a reliable go-to receiver with excellent hands who is competitive for the ball in any situation. He usually catches what he can touch."

I recognize the stat say what the stat's say - but as Daseal points out: how many of those balls were catchable by anyone? Do you suppose that Moss would have had as much success in SF as he had here?

As a comparison (so we can compare their analysis of LLoyd to their analysis of someone we know), here is ESPN Scouts take on Rod Gardner:
"He is difficult to get out of his routes. He has great hands and the speed to be a vertical threat. He can make the catch with arms extended and has a great feel for the sideline catch. He is inconsistent and must improve his focus and attention to details. He has improved his route running a great deal but sometimes fails to accelerate out of his cuts and get separation. He takes plays off when he isn't the primary receiver. His blocking effort can be halfhearted. He doesn't have a good feel for attacking coverage. He lacks elite speed and elusiveness after the catch. He is a gifted athlete who doesn't maximize his talent."

Now if "Great Hands" means he can make any catch when he focuses, I would agree. Gardner could make any catch he wanted to - he just didn't "want to" about 50% of the time.

So if the statement LLoyd has "excellent hands" is a reflection of abiltiy - great, b/c it appears he doesn't have the same knock on him as Gardner concerning concentration.

Actually, LLoyd's description seems to me to be very similar to Moss.

03-11-2006, 11:10 AM	#116
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 63 Posts: 10,401	Re: Brandon Lloyd Here is ESPN Insider's take on the guy: "Lloyd has marginal size for a receiver lacking both the ideal height and the bulk for the position. However, he makes up for his lack of ideal size with excellent athletic ability. He has very good foot quickness and good speed, though his top end speed is not in the elite class. He has a good surge off the line of scrimmage and runs precise routes. He has a burst coming out of his cuts to get separation and shows the ability to move a defender who is in man coverage with very little wasted motion. He uses his hands and his foot quickness to get off press coverage and knows how to find the voids in coverage. He has excellent hands and can make the acrobatic catch. He shows excellent focus and concentration on the ball when it is in the air, and with his long arms and his leaping ability, he will win most jump ball contests. He can be a threat with the ball in his hands and has a good feel for where he is on the field and where the sideline is at all times. He lacks the physical stature to be a physical blocker down field and is more of a screen and wall off guy. A big, strong defensive back can muscle him out of his routes on occasion. Overall, he needs to improve his strength and is becoming a reliable go-to receiver with excellent hands who is competitive for the ball in any situation. He usually catches what he can touch." I recognize the stat say what the stat's say - but as Daseal points out: how many of those balls were catchable by anyone? Do you suppose that Moss would have had as much success in SF as he had here? As a comparison (so we can compare their analysis of LLoyd to their analysis of someone we know), here is ESPN Scouts take on Rod Gardner: "He is difficult to get out of his routes. He has great hands and the speed to be a vertical threat. He can make the catch with arms extended and has a great feel for the sideline catch. He is inconsistent and must improve his focus and attention to details. He has improved his route running a great deal but sometimes fails to accelerate out of his cuts and get separation. He takes plays off when he isn't the primary receiver. His blocking effort can be halfhearted. He doesn't have a good feel for attacking coverage. He lacks elite speed and elusiveness after the catch. He is a gifted athlete who doesn't maximize his talent." Now if "Great Hands" means he can make any catch when he focuses, I would agree. Gardner could make any catch he wanted to - he just didn't "want to" about 50% of the time. So if the statement LLoyd has "excellent hands" is a reflection of abiltiy - great, b/c it appears he doesn't have the same knock on him as Gardner concerning concentration. Actually, LLoyd's description seems to me to be very similar to Moss.