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Old 03-23-2006, 01:33 AM   #96
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Re: Brunell vs. Bledsoe

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what parameters do you want on it? If you want you can treat each team as an equation and each year givess you 32 equations... you compile that data and you can data mine it any way you want.
I'm sure you can manipulate the numbers and come up all sorts of statistics but I hope you are going to show me how you could produce some that are useful and reliable.

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In the end the stats as they are work well enough that there's no really need to go into that though. you can look at sacks and the QBs escape ability (measured from bledsoe to mcnabb) and have some idea how much of that is on the OL and how much is on the QB.
Explain how you do that, please. I'm skeptical.

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if manning had moss and cooley and the junk WRs we had last year, he'd put up better numbers than brunell. his stats prove that by the crazy difference in TD/INT, TDs, yards, completion % etc.
In order to prove this, you'd have to assign a weight as a percentage to both the Redkins "support package" and the Colts support package. And, if you were able to do this accurately, you could get a very accurate grade of the quarterback's performance isolated from other factors.

I don't believe you can do it.

How do you grade interceptions, for example. Suppose a QB has 17 for the year. It seems to me that to grade fairly, we need to know when and how they happened. If his team was poor defensively, and their opponents ran out to big leads, then we'd need to make an adjustment to that number for the Hail Marys and other INTs thrown in desperate situations.

If his coach liked to go deep often, or his receivers didn't fight for passes, or if his offensive line didn't protect him...all of these things and others would factor into his total.

So, if A represents INTs that are primarily the fault of the QB, then we have:

A + B + C + D + E = 17 What's the value of A?
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