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Huddle · 03-23-2006, 09:04 AM

That Guy and others....

Since you have avoided a direct confrontation with the argument I made and the evidence I offered, I'll assume at this point that you can't find a counter argument.

I realize that it's easier for you to put words in my mouth and then trash the things I never said, but for the record:

I did not state that all statistics are useless.

I did not state that the statistics used by pro teams are useless.

I did not state that baseball statistics are useless
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I did not state that, even given additional new data, it would still be impossible to grade individual performance.

I said that the common football statistics of the kind so often used in this forum and others are almost useless.

I gave one logical argument for my position and I supplied evidence that the stats are unreliable.

As stated in one of my earlier posts:

There is one logical argument only: You cannot claim that your statistic is a measurement of a player's performance when that statistic is a combined measurement of the player's performance and other significant factors (You cannot measure A,B,C,D,E together and rely on it as a measurement of A).

The evidence of its unreliability is in the sharp rise and fall of of the stats of many players when they change teams or when a new coach uses them differently in their scheme. If the stats were a reliable measure of individual performances, this evidence would not exist.

Unless, there are new arguments on point, I'll rest my case.

03-23-2006, 09:04 AM	#10
Huddle Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 352	Re: Brunell vs. Bledsoe That Guy and others.... Since you have avoided a direct confrontation with the argument I made and the evidence I offered, I'll assume at this point that you can't find a counter argument. I realize that it's easier for you to put words in my mouth and then trash the things I never said, but for the record: I did not state that all statistics are useless. I did not state that the statistics used by pro teams are useless. I did not state that baseball statistics are useless . I did not state that, even given additional new data, it would still be impossible to grade individual performance. I said that the common football statistics of the kind so often used in this forum and others are almost useless. I gave one logical argument for my position and I supplied evidence that the stats are unreliable. As stated in one of my earlier posts: There is one logical argument only: You cannot claim that your statistic is a measurement of a player's performance when that statistic is a combined measurement of the player's performance and other significant factors (You cannot measure A,B,C,D,E together and rely on it as a measurement of A). The evidence of its unreliability is in the sharp rise and fall of of the stats of many players when they change teams or when a new coach uses them differently in their scheme. If the stats were a reliable measure of individual performances, this evidence would not exist. Unless, there are new arguments on point, I'll rest my case.