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Originally Posted by memphisskin
I love how commentators, and now you, talk about Randle El's 35 catches last year as proof that he's not a #2 wideout. That makes sense, unless you happened to watch the NFL or knew anything about the Steelers offense. Little known fact, Plaxico Burress caught 35 balls the previous year as the #2 wideout. And Roethlisberger threw more passes in '04 than he did '05, and to top it all off, the Steelers had the most rushing attempts in the league last year. So they weren't throwing it a ton, in fact, the Steelers m.o. was to pass early to get the lead, then rely on the running game and defense to hold on. Are his 35 catches an indication that he wasn't getting open? That he can't catch the ball?
As for Lloyd, seeing as how the 49ers had the worst passing game in the league with 118.6 yards per game, Lloyd's 48 catches for 733 yards and 5 tds don't seem quite so mundane anymore. Especially considering the qbs he had throwing him the ball, as I don't think anyone will confuse Alex Smith and Tim Rattay for Joe Montana and Steve Young. And Lloyd's 89 yard catch came on the Cowboys, with Terrence Newman chasing him the whole way. I think he outplayed your girl Terry Glenn that day, 2 tds to 0, 142 yards to 137. Maybe I'm wrong, I sure hope you show me where though.
Also I didn't put JJ and portis toghether I said Portis is great wich he is and I place our 2rb as good, with potential but they aren't in the same league I mention JJ and Barber together.
I would keep on, but you lost me when you compared Clinton Portis, who has three 1500 yard seasons in four years (1300 was his off year) to Julius Jones who has yet to crack 1000 in either of his. I'm not knocking JJ, but he's not in the same class as Portis right now. Any mention of Patrick Crayton must be qualified with "as long as Sean Taylor isn't around." So Patrick Crayton is a capable receiver "as long as Sean Taylor isn't around." Or do u need proof?
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ok here we go I know Pittsburgh is a run first team but still produced 100+ yards receivers and i nsome season 2 1000+ yards receivers and and yes plaxico had 35 catches his last year with pitt but that was when randall el took some passes from him and he only played 11 games Randall-el with no #3 WR only produced 35 even in 2004 with plaxico on the team he had a better year than last year.
Before that Plaxico had 66, 78 60 catches for 1008, 1325, 860 and I know you're going to say Tommy Maddox but hey with tommy it was still a Run first team. And your comment about Pittsburgh being the team with more Rushing attemps of the nfl they only had
20 more attemps then dallas and dallas still produced an 1136 (62 catches) 8td wr in Glenn and a 839 (70cath) 6td receiver in KJ so sorry man if I don0t give credit to Randall-el as a #2 or complete receiver. He has other quallities like PR and trow fake reverse pass but he isn't a #2 receiver if he was so great Pitt would have kept him.
Now About B. Lloyd he has potential he makes some fantasy catches he burned our D last year, but he drops a lot off the easy ones 2 and yes he has had bad Qb's I'll give you that but again why will SF trade him for a 4th if a remmember correctly without having another wr in the roster. Makes you wonder.
And About the Crayton vs Taylor thing I see others answering that comment Crayton burned him for the go ahead TD in 2004 Taylor made him eat dirt in 3rd down must convertion in 2005 right now they are 1-1 in my book.