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Originally Posted by D'BOYZ
I didn't say pitt because I tought 3 teams where enough but they also move up in the draft the same way Denver NE and the Eagles do they use the same type of strategy they don't give away future pics.
So you agree that NE and Pitts have great programs because they have won recent SB even though it took 10 years for pitt to reach the superbowl again, but you don't agree the Eagles and Denver have great programs championship caliber teams because the eagles didn't won the superbowl they played last year and lost 3 consecutive championship games.
And because denver hasn't win/gone to a superbowl since Elway that was 7 years ago even tought they have been consistent for the past 7 years and haven't had a bad season in all this time??
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You said "championship caliber", not me. Explain to me how Denver is a championship caliber team. We're talking about current teams here, not what they did 10 years ago with completely different players and in many cases different coaching staffs. How is Denver "championship caliber"? Because they can get into the playoffs? Because they don't have bad years? Ok, so apparently they are awarding championships simply based on making the playoffs and consistency now? I wasn't aware of that.
As for the Eagles, the fact that they haven't won a super bowl is inexcusable. You're talking about a team that built itself up from the depths of the NFC, only to fall short year after year after year because they didn't want to spend the money to get themselves over the hump. And you want to model that franchise why? Because their system has yielded ONE NFC Championship in 25 years. Because their unwillingness to go after that one extra playmaker has arguably cost them 4 decent shots at a ring? How again are they "championship caliber"?
Look, I'm not going to argue semantics with you. You've (I think) explained why you believe these teams are championship caliber and why they support your stance that teams who trade future picks can't possibly ever win a championship. Being how the Skins are really the first team in recent memory to employ this strategy on a consistent basis, I think it's a little premature to say that their strategy hasn't worked.........especially since the team has made leaps and bounds since Gibbs has come back.
I will leave you with this, however. This offseason the Skins have added (through draft picks or otherwise) two legit #2 WRs who have already had success in the NFL, a pass rushing DE that will be a starter, a solid veteran starting TE, a solid veteran starting safety, a rookie LB that will probably be a starter, a backup QB with experience in a new explosive offense that has proven successful in the NFL, and an offensive coordinator thought by many to be one of the best in the NFL who could have been a head coach for other teams. All of that added to a team that went into the second round of the playoffs last year. What have Denver and Philly done to get better? Do the math and tell me the Skins don't appear to be in a better position at a championship run than those two "championship caliber" teams. Maybe their rookies are going to be great, maybe they'll be busts. At least we pretty much know what we got.