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Old 10-24-2006, 08:04 PM   #128
illdefined
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Re: QB or defense: what's the bigger problem?

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012 View Post
Well, my sig would imply I don't think the guy is getting the ball enough. I was almost being sarcastic with the first three paragraphs.
well crap, hard to tell your sarcasm when you've been compu-spittin Brunell stats in his favor.

you should change your sig to: Chris.Cooley.Santana.Moss.Brandon.Lloyd.Antwaan.Ra ndle.El. hell, while you're at it, David.Patten.James.Thrash. anything but Ladell

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We have plays to beat the two. When you see Lloyd or Randle El go over the middle and Brunell hit them, chances are the play is being called out of the cover 2 beater section of the Saunders playbook. We still have the back as a check down, but theres a reason that it doesnt go there on that play. The intended reciever(s) was open, and for a big chunk of yardage. Simple pitch and catch. No YAC necessary. But that play is designed to beat open coverages. If that play is called agaisnt a closed coverage, I'm sure Brunell will check down.
ok uh, are you quoting me now? this is exactly what we're all pulling our hair out begging to happen.

i KNOW we have chapters in the "700" to beat the cover-2, and it involves getting it to Lloyd and ARE near the hash marks in the center of the field (no YAC, as you said now). you act like that's been happening a lot and it hasn't, maybe 2-3 times all season (like before when you admitted this was a YAC based offense?). this has been my point all along. most of these dump offs are contingencies, not designed plays. Brunell is checking down too quick and not punishing the defense.

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Also, I'm 100% sure its far more complicated than this, but hopefully this sheds a little light on all the check downs. Sure you could rear back and fire it in there a la favre no matter what the coverage is, but thats not Gibbs style football, and Brunell isn't Brett Favre in his prime. He, due to coaching and style, is far better than Favre is now, IMO.
rearing back and firing is how you get it to your cover-2 beaters as you yourself (agreed with?) said above. alas, one DB close to our speedsters is enough to discourage Brunell, not just a bracket. and as far as i remember, dinking and dunking into mediocrity wasn't "Gibbs style football" either.
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