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Originally Posted by illdefined
should i dig up all your posts you dared me to save? you say you mix up your arguments, but your mixing depends on the outcome of the last game and who was QBing.
when Brunell does statistically well, despite everyone's observations - he did well in your eyes. if he didn't do well statistically, but still in line with everyone's expectations, it was 'bad luck'. subjective to say the least. even more so than remarks about the team's emotional state. meanwhile, you insist to see stats to back up OUR arguments and when we tell you exactly how your stats can be easily skewed - you dismiss us as being "subjective". at best, i'd call that being more than just a little inconsistent.
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Luck is everything that can't be controlled by your team. So if Nick Novak or John Hall misses a game winning field goal from 30 yards out, that's not bad luck, that's having a weak kicking game. But if John Kasay for example were to hit from 65 yards out to win vs. us, that's bad luck in the statistical sense. You can't make kickers miss kicks, you can't (in most cases) make the other team commit penalties, you can't expect to recover a fumble, you can't help it when team's come out and play their best game of the season against you (this can be measured). Anything your team can not control that affects the outcome of the game I would deem luck. Before you bring it up, I am not trying to dismiss bad play as luck. It's a big part of football, more than anyone seems to want to admit. But if we had caught Tennessee or Minnesota on any other day (and I really do mean ANY other day), this would be an entirely different season. That's horrible luck.
If a "spark" is hope, then it certainly CAN be measured (assuming it' affects the game). The stats won't show how much of a player's production is emotional motivation (which is why you don't know if a "spark" actually exists), and how much is talent, but does it really matter? Randy Moss is a superbly talented player. His stats (sabremetric and conventional) are awful this year, obviously because he is unmotivated. But should Moss be considered a better than what he's done simply because he's unmotivated? I should hope not.
You can't seperate emotion from talent in statistics...but why would you want to?
Do you disagree?