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Originally Posted by wbecker999
Below are my replies to That Guy
*worst stats for any starting WR in the super bowl era - Bad teams bad quarterbacks
*his ypc is NOT NEAR the best in the league like you said - You misunderstood I said his YPC was among the best receivers in the league
Like Santana Moss and Chad Johnson.
*he's made multiple spats on the sidelines, a bad history in SF, and andre carter (when asked about lloyd's character) basically said "no comment" - you're only response is to cut him some slack, even though he's shown no improvement and refuses to accept blame for anything that goes wrong (and even said he sees absolutely no reason to ever change that kind of attitude).-
Who Knows he may have manned up and took responsibility in the locker room
at a later date. For all we know he's became close friends with them guys by now
*he's never had a 1,000 yard season, and the 49ers definitely didn't think he was worth keeping around at the vet min - Bad system bad quarterback
and I wouldn't run my franchise like S.F these days. I don't classify S.F front office as being smart
*goes mia for games - your response - what's backing that up - my response - look at the stats and box scores, it's pretty obvious, or watch the games. - I think he is a Highly competitive guy and he gets an attitude when he doesn't feel he's getting the ball enough and not being uses correctly
that's another bullshit strawman and an amazing appearance of the "i'm right cause i said so" argument yet again. but that's useless cause there's no proof at all for what your saying or anything that rebuffs those stats. moss and cooley and even el produced just fine, so what?, was lloyd the victim of a vast right wing conspiracy? it makes no sense - he was even on the field for more snaps than el as a WR.
I would say he rubbed the quarterbacks the wrong way and they didn't throw to him . I say he will grow up this year because we will have a good offense
*plenty of good WRs put up stats with crappy QBs (in response to your "well, it's campbell's fault for not being peyton argument). check joe horn, check randy moss, check boldin and fitzgerald, check torry holt with a 3rd string QB, and i'm sure there's tons of other examples. - there is no way to compare they are not in the same situation
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um, worse QBs with worse WRs have put up better stats. he's not just bad, but worst ever type bad. how is his situation different than EVERY other WR that's ever put up more than 500yards in a season with both good and bad QBs? you know, if campbell is as bad as implied, how is he magically become good enough for lloyd to have good numbers?
saying he rubbed the QBs the wrong way so they wouldn't throw to him is really silly. their have been tons of QB/WR spats, and NONE of them has ever resulted in the terrible type of stats he was putting up.
among the best like not in the top 50+ in ypc? that's not the best in my book. devery henderson's 22.3 blows away 15.9 and there are plenty (and i mean plenty) of others up over 17ypc.
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Who Knows he may have manned up and took responsibility in the locker room at a later date."
and that's why in portis's post season interview he kept talking about what a b*tch lloyd was and how he alienated everyone in the lockerroom? sorry, but that's relatively well known, and there's plenty of track record that's directly counter to your sentiments.
all of those responses are just opinions and NONE of them have a shred of actual fact of any kind behind them. saying that there's never been a situation like this one is insane too. lots of other WRs managed to deal with worse QBs and worse situations and still put up better numbers, even as #3 and #4s.