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Originally Posted by offiss
If the trade offer is true I think it's only a matter of time before it happens, the Bears figured if we are dumb enough to make this deal we might be dumb enough to kick something else in, and thier probably right.
I think all we need is one more LB and we are on our way, Briggs should make all the difference in the world, let the Bears trade down and draft a LB who's unproven to play on a championship caliber team, they will probably deal down and end up with 2 pro bowlers. As for us we will find that Briggs is not a pass rusher which is what we need, nor can he take on opposing guards and tackles which is something else we need. So let's get a LB who will get knocked into the parking lot by lineman with the likes of Andre Carter getting man handled by TE's leaving tackles and guards to pancake Briggs. Not to worry after a couple of weeks of talking about this trade they will have everyone believing what a great move it is, until we actually see we are getting a good LB not a great LB, and still need D-linemen, a safety, and a front line CB, and a guard.
The fact that we even made this proposal [if true] just shows the utter stupidity and incompetency of all involved.
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Despite the vitriol of the criticism I think I have to agree with most points here. Lance Briggs is not the answer, he is just another high priced player groomed by another team. If we actually kept a couple of our draft picks maybe we could draft guys like Briggs in the Third Round (i.e. Cooley and Dock) and develop them ourselves rather than having to look to other teams to develop talent. Do the Redskins have so little faith in their scouting department that they don't even think they can score a Pro Bowl caliber player at the #6 overall pick? I went back and looked at Briggs' stats and, as Offhiss said, he has never proven himself a pass rusher, never having more than, I think, 2.5 sacks in a season. I guess he could be sort of a Derrick Brooks-style Willie Backer, but is there no chance that Rocky can be that guy? He was the 34th overall pick last year, basically a first round talent. If we have already busted out on the 34th pick then what makes everyone think whoever they get at 31 will be any good.
Two things occurred to me when I heard the Bears had apparently rejected the trade. It was a BAD move for both teams and apparently the Bears don't see anyone they really need at #6 and right after that I thought that they are posturing for something else. Hell if Danny thinks dropping 25 picks is a steal for a franchise player (b/c they normally cost two first right! What a business man, great deal!) then maybe they can squeeze out a future 2nd or 3rd as well. Hell we gave up Champ (at one of the top 3 most elite positions) and a 2nd for Portis (who I love, but who plays a non-elite position); we gave up a 3rd for Brunell who would have gotten cut and when no one else would have traded anything more than a 6th; we gave up a 3rd and a 4th for Llyod. Hell, if the Bears hold out long enough maybe they can get Dan to throw in Redskins One as part of the package along with our entire draft for the next three years. I thought this was finally the offseason when the Redskins just played it conservatively, that lasted less than a MONTH! Hopefully all of this is moot and the Bears have saved us, but I'm not so sure that is the case...I think we might hear more about this before it is done.