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What I don't get is how people seem to think this is all new. Politics and running the country have always been a shady game. Jefferson had to circumvent his rights to make the Lousiana Purchase, Adams (I think it was Adams) tampered with civil liberties with the Alien and Sedition Acts, Lincoln violated the constitution by suspending the writ of habeas corpus, McKinley I don't believe had any true legit reason to launch the Spanish-American War, Teddy Roosevelt involved the US in a Colombian civil war for the sole purpose of creating Panama and the Panama Canal,...and so on.

I don't know how history will remember W. But it's interesting to note that the presidents often seen as the worst of all-time (Buchanan and Harding to name two) are the ones who chose to do nothing, often because legally that's all they could do.