[That Guy]

Originally Posted by steveo395

So your saying that you don't need a first organism for evolution to work? It had to start somewhere. At some point, life had to start from non-life.

and you've decide not to show any proof that you're opinion has any more merit than anyone else's. i'll respond to the rest in a bit, but why are you so convinced scientific study is clearly 100% wrong here?

Many holes in the fossil record and natural selection has never been shown to create a different species

wow, i asked for something that's not vague, and i get a vague and cryptic response. which holes in the fossil record are these? and who said anything about different species. Natural selection is more about adaptation, evolution is about separating species... but in the current issues of sciam (www.sciam.com), it talks about recovered collagen from a T-Rex being identical to that found in chickens, helping further aid the already widely accept thought that some species (not necessarily T-Rex) evolved along that path. That's just the most recent example, but there are thousands of others.

Ok, then I guess matter just appeared from nowhere, which goes against the laws of physics. Matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed. They can only change forms.

look, a hammer is a great tool, but it's not meant to be used with screws. evolution and origin are completely separate ideas. not only are you mixing up theories, you're arguing a point that no one ever made, unless you care to show me where anyone said anything about evolution breaking the laws of physics.

It seems like you're trying to debate theories you've never bothered to read, since the big bang, string theory, etc etc don't have matter coming from out of nowhere, so i have no idea what you're even trying to argue with that.

first origin is mainly thought to have occurred through somewhat random chance by either the replicator or membrane theory, both of which are fully explained, along with possible limitations in great depth on SciAm ( Science and technology information from Scientific American -- great magazine, btw) if you care to learn more about them.


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