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Originally Posted by FRPLG
Here's a link to WaPo's reporting on Fla's statewide "recount".
Florida Recounts Would Have Favored Bush (washingtonpost.com)
Couple of things:
It shows Gore may have won had ALL of the disputed votes, 175,010 to be exact, in the entire state been counted. By 171 votes at most.
The "recount" was not actually a recount but a study sponsored and conducted by various news media.
My problems with they way Crazyhorse is using this are several fold.
It seems CH that you are asserting that this study shows that Gore actually won the state when in fact it shows nothing of the sort. It shows when only the disputed votes are recounted by hand that Gore wins. It says nothing about all the other non-disputed votes which surely have mistakes numbering in the hundreds at least. Statistically that is certian. Who knows, these votes could fall for Gore or maybe not but in the end the 171 margin produced by counting only a small portion of the votes, disputed or not, is competely insignificant. Heck the article points out that basically we'll never know. So don't use this supposed "recount" in your arguments without properly understanding it please.
As for the disenfranchised non-felons. The info I found while Googling showed the number to be 8,000. Not 80,000. Not insiginificant by any means but someone so in the know, educated, and stuck on facts I thought you should know that your number is wrong. Also my researching, short as it was, didn't really lead me to believe that some type of conspiracy was perpetrated. It seems likes a regular old screw up.
Now I did find some info that had actual felons been allowed to vote Gore would have won by 80,000 votes. Maybe CH is confusing his number with this one. Imagine that, convicted felons voting for Gore. Who'd have thought? |
I'm glad you've entered the discussion. There are valid links for all the "facts" you relate. I chose links that support my position just as you chose links that supported yours. Early reports tended to support the notion that foul ups caused the problem, a notion I long ago rejected after reading other reports. Your 8,000 felons may be the correct number but no one knows for sure. At the time, we, the dems, believed the number of scrubbed voters to be around 178,000, a figure that included around 80,000 phony ex-cons, almost all of whom were blacks.
The only recount worth considering, in my view, is the hand-counted one which found for Gore, the law at the time stipulating that recounts should be hand counted, or so I believe and do defend. No, I didn't confuse 8,000 for 80,000, but even 8,000 proves fraud if deliberately scrubbed and would certainly have given the election to Gore.