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Originally Posted by wilsowilso
We spent 500 posts doing the Brady V. Manning thing so that's no good. I think you are right that experienced college QB's make the best prospects. Never said otherwise.
Now to the last point that all QB's improve upon arriving in the NFL. I'm not going to use stats and I know this might offend your sensibilities, but I just don't see how this idea that ALL qb's improve can be gauged by use of stats. I would say that reaching the NFL can easily become the apex of a quarterbacks career in terms of growth and development. Many quarterbacks do not improve at all upon reaching the professional level. Instead they are short circuited by the transition to the pro ranks. The complex schemes on both sides of the ball change the whole dynamic in which a young signal caller sees the football field. You are learning a new language. You have intense pressure coming from the fact that the speed of the game is far greater than anything you have ever experienced and of course you are now trying to make a living as an athlete. Many many many quarterbacks can not handle it. They step on the field as a pro and they know. I am not a pro quarterback. I want my mommy. They never make it back. It is an immediate regression in their growth and development and it happens all the time. You say ALL Qb's improve. I say the don't.
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Alright, fair enough, but do you have an example of someone who fell victim to the phenemon that you suggest. Someone who not only was bad to begin with, but clearly never improved (of course assuming that the career was long enough to improve?)
And assuming that you do have an example, what similarities does this example share with Brady Quinn that makes you think you have a "poor man's Plummer" on your hands?
After all, Quinn was the most experienced college QB in the draft (save Kolb). You just agreed that that was a primarily desirable quality.
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Ben Roethlisberger would be an example of someone who has regressed during his pro career. However, to claim that Roethlisberger peaked at age 22, (which supports the anti-Quinn argument) you would have to be reasonably certain that he will continue to regress until hes out of the league in a few years. I believe Roethlisberger will definately improve this year, and that hes still at least 4-5 years away from his peak.